On 8/6/2015 12:51 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
Muggles wrote:
On 8/6/2015 7:57 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Wednesday, August 5, 2015 at 3:38:33 PM UTC-4, Muggles wrote:


Given that lions have declined from 400,000 to 16,000, are endangered,
almost extinct in West Africa and Asia, have lost most of the land
areas they once had, do you think it's a good idea to be killing
them to hang on walls for amusement? YES or NO.

I can't honestly say yes or no as to whether it's a good idea or not.

See, that's what makes you the village idiot.

Whether or not something is a "good idea" is pretty much a personal
opinion. You asked me if I thought it was a good idea, and I gave you a
straight answer.

Some people think it's a GREAT idea to hunt big game for trophies. I'm
not a hunter, so for me to judge what they do for a hobby based on my
own personal distaste for hunting really isn't a fair way to judge what
other people do for a hobby. It's obviously OK to hunt big game for
trophies for some people.

YOU, OTOH, automatically judge people solely based on your own personal
preferences, and if people don't do/say/behave in a way that passes your
litmus test then you call them the "village idiot".

What makes you think you're any better than me? You've no self-control
and evidently you're incapable of discussing a topic where you're
challenged to consider a different point of view. Do you try to force
feed everyone your agenda on every topic, or am I just special?

The locals don't care if another lion is killed and are puzzled by why
Some Americans care so much about it. If they don't care and it's in
their own back yard, why don't they care? Are the lions eating their
livestock or attacking their families?

If you paid the slightest attention to the news, you'd see that
the people of Zimbabwe do care. And don't lie and pretend that
I didn't already tell you that Z has halted the killing of lions
in response. Lawmakers are looking into changing the laws, they
want Palmer extradicted, so it's obvious that the people of Z,
like most people, care. Do you even look at the facts of what is
actually going on before coming in here and making an ass of yourself?

Lawmakers? Sure, their government is going to try to cash in on the
issue. If they'd cared before the incident they would have already done
something to halt the killing of lions.

Anyone can appear to care in the midst of a feeding frenzy. After they
get some bucks from the good ole USE will they actually put those
dollars toward their stated goal? I'm guessing as long as they are in
the limelight they'll ham it up.

The PEOPLE are the ones I mentioned who are shocked anyone cares that
the lion was killed - not the lawmakers.


And in all the coverage of this story,
did you see anyone saying that Cecil, the well know star attraction
of the wildlife preserve was attacking families? WTF exactly is
wrong with you?

{{rolls eyes}} Cecil is just another lion to the people who live there.

This article is just 2 days old:

*In Zimbabwe, We Don’t Cry for Lions*
Cecil who? I wondered. When I turned on the news and discovered that the
messages were about a lion killed by an American dentist, the village
boy inside me instinctively cheered: One lion fewer to menace families
like mine...
In my village in Zimbabwe, surrounded by wildlife conservation areas, no
lion has ever been beloved, or granted an affectionate nickname. They
are objects of terror...
The killing of Cecil hasn’t garnered much more sympathy from urban
Zimbabweans, although they live with no such danger. Few have ever seen
a lion, since game drives are a luxury residents of a country with an
average monthly income below $150 cannot afford.....
We Zimbabweans are left shaking our heads, wondering why Americans care
more about African animals than about African people.....
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/05/op...ions.html?_r=0


Do you agree that man is responsible for almost all the species that
are currently endangered? YES or NO.

No, I don't agree.


Again, that is what makes you the village idiot. No further
proof needed, your credibility, is zero, your comments as
valid as a member of the flat earth society. The scientific proof,
agreement of experts is overwhelming and it's accepted as fact.

Did you know that some people, like yourself, consider humans to be like
weeds to the animal kingdom? I understand that viewpoint - I just don't
agree with it.

Back to causes of extinction and endangered species. Did you know there
are many causes?
-Climatic heating or cooling
-Changes in Sea Levels or currents
-Volcanic activity
-Asteroids/Cosmic Radiation
-Acid Rain
-Disease/Virus's/Epidemic/Parasites
-Spread of Invasive Species
-Pollution (from both natural and human sources)
-Habitat change/destruction (from both natural and human sources)
-Hunting (for profit/over harvesting)
-Over grazing

Man is only one factor that affects extinction and endangered species.

How can you say man is only one factor? You have tunnel vision or your
way of thinking is only as you want. Acid rain. Pollution, Habitat
change, Hunting, I can see more than one.

There at least 6 other reasons species go extinct, not just man.

Are you a hunter?
--
Maggie