On Wed, 22 Jul 2015 06:57:42 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

On Wednesday, July 22, 2015 at 9:25:21 AM UTC-4, Robert Green wrote:
"Ashton Crusher" wrote in message

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Probably so. Although some there think he would have made sure none
of the cupcakes got into the hands of gay people. I think Jesus would
have wanted the cupcakes to go to everyone, gay, straight, Trans,
whatever. That's how Jesus was.

From everything I've read about just HIS teachings and not the follow-on
works of others you're right on the money. He was unafraid to preach to and
comfort lepers.

With lepers there is no morality issue.

I don't remember him checking ID and criminal/sexual
history when he performed the miracle of feeding the poor.

Again the relevant example would be if the criminal was
seeking to buy a weapon from Jesus or an adulterer were seeking
to rent a room to commit adultery.


You would think
if homosexuality was the enormous evil that some religious types make it out
to be, that Moses and God would have mentioned it by adding an eleventh
commandment. Apparently thought crimes like coveting a neighbor's goods or
wife was of a higher priority.

I suspect Christian bakers will now have to run background checks because if
they get this up-tight about serving cakes to gay couples, then they should
also make sure there are no thieves, idolators, kids who disrespect the
parents, etc.

Again, the relevant comparison would be asking a baker to bake a cake
that says "I believe in having sex with children". And again, the bakers
in Oregon had served cakes not only to other gays in the past, but even
baked a cake for the gays involved in the action against them. They just
would not bake a cake commemorating a gay wedding. If I go to a gay baker
and demand that they bake a cakes saying "I believe in traditional marriage",
they refuse, I guess I should be able to go home, claim I can't sleep at
night over it and collect $130K too.


These are mortal sins, carved in stone, but the anti-gay
bakers don't seem too concerned with any of the 10 Commandments the buyer
broke - as long as he isn't gay.

Again, irrelevant and illogical. The bakers were not asked to bake
a cake saying "We believe stealing is OK" or "I believe in adultery".



It seems that setting yourself up as a Christian bakery or pizzeria can be a
ticket to instant wealth:

When an Indiana pizza joint said it wouldn't cater a gay wedding,
supporters took to social media and raised more than $840,000 to help the
shop. When a Florida baker was threatened after she said she wouldn't bake
an anti-gay cake, she raised nearly $15,000 in one month.
Two online fundraisers popped up when Ferguson, Mo., Police Officer Darren
Wilson was put on leave for fatally shooting Michael Brown. The pages earned
more than $400,000 in donations.

Sounds right to me. Where do I contribute? Amazing you'd throw
the skunk Michael Brown into the mix. He had just committed a felony
robbery, assaulted an officer, tried to shoot the officer and finally
wound up dead while charging back at the office. All supported by
witnesses and the physical evidence. There was no "hands up,
don't shoot", just a criminal skunk running amok.


Here's another chance for you to avoid answering this....

Many on here say their desire to refuse
service to gays is because of their religious beliefs. Because of
their religious believes they say the first amendment gives them the
right to refuse to obey the LAW that prohibits discrimination against
gays. So the question that has been put to those people, and which
not a single one of the is willing to answer is this... If my (or
someone's) religious beliefs said it was a sin to pay taxes to the gvt
would our first amendment rights mean we don't have to pay taxes to
the gvt?

So I put the question to you... If my (or
someone's) religious beliefs said it was a sin to pay taxes to the gvt
would our first amendment rights mean we don't have to pay taxes to
the gvt?