On Thu, 2 Jul 2015 07:19:05 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:
Obviously 60% of people polled say they are OK with
gay marriage. I don't see how two gay people
marrying each other is immoral. How is that harming
you or society?

Majority is never an indicator as to whether or not something is
right or wrong. It is an indicator of a particular statistic, and
statistics can be used to prove anything if the right questions are
asked.

Morality is dependant on personal ideals which may or may not be
harmful to society. A healthy and thriving society will promote the
ideals and morals that help it to thrive.

Take a look at other countries that allow particular behaviors, and
his those societies function. I think that's a better indicator of
where certain laws would send America in the future.

What is more moral, confining gay people to the
shadows or allowing them to enter the same
relationships as heterosexuals?

The argument is moot because gays have been out of the closet for
decades, now. The issue is changing a law that has redefined the
definition of marriage, and how our society will control just how far
we'll allow that redefinition to go.

The morality issue seems to be based on what the
bible says and also on fear and ignorance passed
down over time.

I disagree. The issue is based on common sense and the people's view
of the purpose of the family unit. That definition has also changed
due to the rise in divorce and the increase in blended families. It
was a logical progression based on real changes in our society.

We've already put aside plenty of what the bible says,
for good reason, as time progresses.

If that were true many of our current laws would be moot. Don't kill
and don't steal are just 2 biblical ideals that inspired a basis for
American society.

And that assumes that you believe it to begin with.
Do you believe the earth is only 6,000 years old and a
woman was created from a rib?

Belief and faith are different topics altogether from discussing how
legally redefining marriage may affect America and additional
redefinition of marriage in the future.


As I said before, similar was said when slavery
ended, women were allowed to vote, segregation
was ended, inter-racial marriage was
allowed, etc. Yet none of those resulted in the world
coming to an end and in fact, today almost everyone
agrees they were the right thing to do, though at the
time, they were hotly contested too.

All of those things did not redefine what constituted legal marriage
in the U.S. None of those changes owned the door for allowing a
legal precedent for arguing to allow any combination to marry. Once
marriage was redefined to be anything other than one male and one
female a legal precedence was set, and now the question is his long
before we become like other countries that allow people to marry
their goats? We currently have no legal ground to prevent that from
happening in the future in America.


What legal ground do we have at this point that
won't allow Americans to do the same?


Now you're being ridiculous.


Hardly. It only takes one legal precedence to start the snowball
rolling. How many lawsuits have happened since the first time a
women spilled fast food drive thru coffee in her lap and she sued the
day food chain for her own clumsiness?


Do you really think if that case made it into federal
court that there is any doubt as to what the decision
would be? Good grief.


My parents generation said the same thing about gay marriage at some
point in time. It's short sighted to think that decisions we make
today won't allow things to go to an unthinkable place in the future.

--
Maggie