On Wednesday, June 10, 2015 at 10:03:49 AM UTC-7, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 6/10/2015 12:48 PM, wrote:

last year a bought a new toyota avalon, without any navigation,
which would have been 1.000s more

so i treated myself to a $200+ garmin GPS, with voice navigation, and a very large screen

IIRC, you give up having a backup camera that comes with the navigation.
That will change in another model year or so. I won't buy a car
without the camera.

actually,
my Avalon did come with a back up camera
[it must be standard on all Avalons]

but it's not easy getting used to.
i have mirrors, over my shoulder, and now a camera?
almost too many things to look at

marc