On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 23:25:47 -0700, Gunner Asch
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On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 10:06:29 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:17:30 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:59:25 +0700, John B.
wrote:

On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 18:17:13 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:07:51 +0700, John B.
wrote:


Think Ive not paid my fair share in hummm...45 yrs?

What..no answer?

All those retired folks who are using Medicare..they too are sucking
on the Dole as well?

Fascinating.
--
cheers,

John B.

Jeers.

Gunner

No, they paid for their healthcare. You didn't.
--
cheers,

John B.

So I didnt pay or my Medicare? I am on Medicare btw.

Welll....the California equivelent..MediCal. Same difference. And
yeah..I paid for it.

Got cites that I didnt? Or is this more hogwash blown out your ass?


Gunner

Well, you may be on this or on that but If I remember correctly from
your first posts, pictures of the staple lines and so on, you didn't
mention anything about Medi-this or Cali-that. In fact I remember you
saying that the hospital was after you trying to collect their
money, what was it? 200,000-odd dollars that you owed them? And
subsequent to the gruesome pictures you have mentioned that you were
making periodic payments on the bill.

Loma Linda ****ed something up during my surgery. They wont..wont tell
me what it was. But..they dropped the $175k surgery..to zero. Oh..I
think I know..it was the stroke. I was supposed to go in on a
Thursday for my final release..and drove down to my place in Ontario
Wed night. I had the stroke that night sometime. When I drove..like a
robot...out to Loma Linda hospital..the senior surgeon told me Id had
a stoke...dragging my leg and drooling as I was. He sent me to
Riverside hospital. No care, no followup..no medical checkout..nada He
simply told me to go to the other hospital. So I went back to
Ontario,.,.and sat in the corner of my favorite bar for 9 hours..like
a robot. When they closed..they asked me if I was ok. I guess the
drooling and marginal speech told them something..Id not had a drink
other than Pepsi all day..so they called a friend and told them to
take me home..something was wrong..which he did. He is not..the
sharpest knife in the drawer...

When I woke up the next morning..I was more clear headed and I knew
something was really wrong. So I called another friend..she came and
got me..took me out to Arrowhead hospital. 5 minutes in the waiting
room..and they jerked me out of my chair and took me straight into ER
and did the tests...yup..Id had a smallish but serious stroke.

The stroke ...that was cared for by Riverside Co. ..Arrowhead Medical
Center. 2 shots, 1 IV and 4 days of rather yukky food..and it cost me
$135k. I went in on Friday..their stroke guy didnt show up until
Monday..he had been on a camping trip. Shrug..they released me the
next day.
I made something like 10 or so payments...they called me up and asked
me to pay them in full. I told them..not a chance, I was marginally
employed. They called back again a year later...same request..same
response. Id made another 10 or so payments. A year later..same deal,
same request...and when I told them...no way..they took a lien on my
property. So when I sell it..if ever, they get the money. However..Id
homesteaded it 30 yrs ago..when they found that out..Id forgotten
(stroke)..they cleared the books. Id have been happy to keep making
payments...but..shrug..they decided to end it and get the money from
the state, or write it off. Shrug.

I did pay the anesthesiologist in full however..that was a couple
grand IRRC. Sold some tools and toys and paid her off.

But, given that it is America why haven't you approached a lawyer to
see whether you may not be entitled to some sort of compensation - a
company that is willing to just forgo $175,000 certainly must have a
reason for doing so. After all, from what I read, America is the land
of the "suits" (lawsuits) is it not?

You dont understand California do you? When I had the heart attack..my
first stop was at Arrowhead. There were 75 illegal alien patients
ahead of me..so they plugged me into a monitor and left me on a gurney
in the hallway for 6 hours until they could get a doctor available to
see me. Id walked in the front door on my own power..so they figured I
was "ok". They later told me Id had a 8 out of a 10 heart attack.
They tried an angioplasty..when that didnt work..they put me, along
with a "booster heart" in an ambulance and sent me on to Loma
Linda..because they didnt do bypasses at that time. Brand new
hospital. Less than a year old.

We have 12 million wetbacks living here..and far leftwing politicians
run the state, despite most of it being Red on a map. So if the wets
and their 5-8 children get free medical...taxpayers should get
something for their money.

https://www.google.com/search?q=cali...utf-8&oe=utf-8

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...border-patrol/

https://www.capsweb.org/sites/defaul...nlsummer05.pdf

Now keep in mind..that those 20 million wets..have at least another 20
million "anchor babies"..childen of wets who were born inside of the
US borders..and their parents pay little in taxes, insurance or much
of anything else.

From 5 yrs ago..and then based on (fraudulant) understated goverment
data)

http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...or-babies-u-s/

Dont believe its understated? Come to California..visit any hospital.
The waiting rooms are filled with ninos and their very pregnant
mommacitas. Vist any southern border in the US...and you will find
that 25% of the women..single or not..are coming over..pregnant.

It's changing the face of America, changing the direction we're going
when all these folks vote, and Caucasians will be the minority in 25
years, if it keeps up. Mexico will have its land back, plus our
country. Does that bother anyone besides me?


As an aside, I just did some research on another question and
apparently something like 50,000 Americans die annually due to
preventive mistakes while in the hospital, so a suit for mal-practice
would not be an anomaly in the U.S. legal system.

Ayup. and its more like 440,000 malpractice deaths. Its the leading
cause of death in the US other than natural causes like cancer etc
etc.
http://www.medicalmalpracticelawyer....0000-deat.html

Shrug..guns, drunk drivers, islamic fundies, lovers quarrels etc
etc..all combined doesnt even come close to a fraction of the
malpractice deaths every year.

Exactly. I've read that it's 986k for doctor/hospital related deaths.
So many there's a word for it: iatrogenic
i?atr?'jenik/
adjective: iatrogenic
of or relating to illness caused by medical examination or treatment.


So 5 yrs later..I look a hell of a lot better. And I got my first set
of full dentures today..so I smile much better too! (Grin)

Congrats/condolences, sir.


Course we age better than many folks..my Dad last year at age 83

https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...55705320630338
And his new 47 yr old wife
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...43605485904418

She told me he only needs Viagra if they plan on an all nighter.
Shrug. So far...Ive had no sign of needing it. But Ill only be 62 in
November.

He purely looks happy with her in that pic.


Gunner, getting ready to go down to Riverside California for service
calls through Friday..and letting his new teeth rest in the jar. Gonna
take some getting used to..that and dealing with the slurring.
Almost...like dealing with the after effects of ..a stroke.
Almost.

Ditto here with the new upper partial. It doesn't fit right, gets in
the way of my tongue at the roof of my mouth, and they want $500 to
reline the ****ing thing. No way. (Mom was paying $30 just 20 years
ago for her relines. I'll learn how and get the materials to do it
myself before I spit out that kind of cash for a cheap fix.


--
We are always the same age inside.
-- Gertrude Stein