On Wed, 08 Jul 2015 10:06:29 +0700, John B.
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:17:30 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 19:59:25 +0700, John B.
wrote:
On Mon, 06 Jul 2015 18:17:13 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:
On Tue, 07 Jul 2015 07:07:51 +0700, John B.
wrote:
Think Ive not paid my fair share in hummm...45 yrs?
What..no answer?
All those retired folks who are using Medicare..they too are sucking
on the Dole as well?
Fascinating.
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cheers,
John B.
Jeers.
Gunner
No, they paid for their healthcare. You didn't.
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cheers,
John B.
So I didnt pay or my Medicare? I am on Medicare btw.
Welll....the California equivelent..MediCal. Same difference. And
yeah..I paid for it.
Got cites that I didnt? Or is this more hogwash blown out your ass?
Gunner
Well, you may be on this or on that but If I remember correctly from
your first posts, pictures of the staple lines and so on, you didn't
mention anything about Medi-this or Cali-that. In fact I remember you
saying that the hospital was after you trying to collect their
money, what was it? 200,000-odd dollars that you owed them? And
subsequent to the gruesome pictures you have mentioned that you were
making periodic payments on the bill.
Loma Linda ****ed something up during my surgery. They wont..wont tell
me what it was. But..they dropped the $175k surgery..to zero. Oh..I
think I know..it was the stroke. I was supposed to go in on a
Thursday for my final release..and drove down to my place in Ontario
Wed night. I had the stroke that night sometime. When I drove..like a
robot...out to Loma Linda hospital..the senior surgeon told me Id had
a stoke...dragging my leg and drooling as I was. He sent me to
Riverside hospital. No care, no followup..no medical checkout..nada He
simply told me to go to the other hospital. So I went back to
Ontario,.,.and sat in the corner of my favorite bar for 9 hours..like
a robot. When they closed..they asked me if I was ok. I guess the
drooling and marginal speech told them something..Id not had a drink
other than Pepsi all day..so they called a friend and told them to
take me home..something was wrong..which he did. He is not..the
sharpest knife in the drawer...
When I woke up the next morning..I was more clear headed and I knew
something was really wrong. So I called another friend..she came and
got me..took me out to Arrowhead hospital. 5 minutes in the waiting
room..and they jerked me out of my chair and took me straight into ER
and did the tests...yup..Id had a smallish but serious stroke.
The stroke ...that was cared for by Riverside Co. ..Arrowhead Medical
Center. 2 shots, 1 IV and 4 days of rather yukky food..and it cost me
$135k. I went in on Friday..their stroke guy didnt show up until
Monday..he had been on a camping trip. Shrug..they released me the
next day.
I made something like 10 or so payments...they called me up and asked
me to pay them in full. I told them..not a chance, I was marginally
employed. They called back again a year later...same request..same
response. Id made another 10 or so payments. A year later..same deal,
same request...and when I told them...no way..they took a lien on my
property. So when I sell it..if ever, they get the money. However..Id
homesteaded it 30 yrs ago..when they found that out..Id forgotten
(stroke)..they cleared the books. Id have been happy to keep making
payments...but..shrug..they decided to end it and get the money from
the state, or write it off. Shrug.
I did pay the anesthesiologist in full however..that was a couple
grand IRRC. Sold some tools and toys and paid her off.
But, given that it is America why haven't you approached a lawyer to
see whether you may not be entitled to some sort of compensation - a
company that is willing to just forgo $175,000 certainly must have a
reason for doing so. After all, from what I read, America is the land
of the "suits" (lawsuits) is it not?
You dont understand California do you? When I had the heart attack..my
first stop was at Arrowhead. There were 75 illegal alien patients
ahead of me..so they plugged me into a monitor and left me on a gurney
in the hallway for 6 hours until they could get a doctor available to
see me. Id walked in the front door on my own power..so they figured I
was "ok". They later told me Id had a 8 out of a 10 heart attack.
They tried an angioplasty..when that didnt work..they put me, along
with a "booster heart" in an ambulance and sent me on to Loma
Linda..because they didnt do bypasses at that time. Brand new
hospital. Less than a year old.
We have 12 million wetbacks living here..and far leftwing politicians
run the state, despite most of it being Red on a map. So if the wets
and their 5-8 children get free medical...taxpayers should get
something for their money.
https://www.google.com/search?q=cali...utf-8&oe=utf-8
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/...border-patrol/
https://www.capsweb.org/sites/defaul...nlsummer05.pdf
Now keep in mind..that those 20 million wets..have at least another 20
million "anchor babies"..childen of wets who were born inside of the
US borders..and their parents pay little in taxes, insurance or much
of anything else.
From 5 yrs ago..and then based on (fraudulant) understated goverment
data)
http://www.judicialwatch.org/blog/20...or-babies-u-s/
Dont believe its understated? Come to California..visit any hospital.
The waiting rooms are filled with ninos and their very pregnant
mommacitas. Vist any southern border in the US...and you will find
that 25% of the women..single or not..are coming over..pregnant.
As an aside, I just did some research on another question and
apparently something like 50,000 Americans die annually due to
preventive mistakes while in the hospital, so a suit for mal-practice
would not be an anomaly in the U.S. legal system.
Ayup. and its more like 440,000 malpractice deaths. Its the leading
cause of death in the US other than natural causes like cancer etc
etc.
http://www.medicalmalpracticelawyer....0000-deat.html
Shrug..guns, drunk drivers, islamic fundies, lovers quarrels etc
etc..all combined doesnt even come close to a fraction of the
malpractice deaths every year.
But of course, having had one of the "stroke moment" that you so
frequently mention, you've probably forgotten all about that.
Really?
Oh..the pictures...they arent all that gruesome.
Some decrepit old man? With staples? All right call them "macabre".
I call em signs of a life saving procedure.
Ive had lots of staples, sutures, drains, etc etc over my life time.
Never quite that many at once..left some interesting scars..but...
Ever seen how they stitch up the departed after an autopsy? Mine are
much more preferable..trust me. And while my brain was a bit
scrambled..tiny bit..it was still firmly attached to my spine and
still inside my skull, rather than in a jar.
They have dug around inside my skull 2x in my life..Id rather they
didnt do that again until the autopsy...say...150 yrs from now.
My family tends to heal up quickly and pretty well..so that chunk of
driving band that they dug out of my skull back in '73..really didnt
have all that much effect on me..once the swelling had gone down. Ive
mentioned waking up in Honsu Japan, blind and paralyised. Shortly
there after..swelling went down..and I walked out a week later and
took the grand tour of Europe..walkabout style.
I was pure and simply..lucky as hell. Praise be to Crom!
As to the 'decrepit old man"...this is me 3 yrs after the surgery..
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...16893109196866
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...05933814272130
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...91664171920098
And a year ago
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...74645853456386
So 5 yrs later..I look a hell of a lot better. And I got my first set
of full dentures today..so I smile much better too! (Grin)
Course we age better than many folks..my Dad last year at age 83
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...55705320630338
And his new 47 yr old wife
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...43605485904418
She told me he only needs Viagra if they plan on an all nighter.
Shrug. So far...Ive had no sign of needing it. But Ill only be 62 in
November.
https://picasaweb.google.com/1040422...6802602/Bypass
Just think of it as a poorly done jigsaw puzzle.
These days..I dont eat junk food, I eat healthy, take all (9) meds
everyday..exercise..do all the good things to keep me healthy.
Shrug..being a traveling service tech for 30+ yrs...ate a lot..a lot
of crap on the road..thought I was gonna live forever.
Oh..Bakersfield Heart Hospital..Id gone into see them in
November..some funny sensations/feelings/pain in my chest. Right after
my insurance ran out. (yep..I had insurance until August of
2008)..when my customers started going tits up)..they told me I had
bronchitis. 4 hrs, no tests..3 hours of waiting room time, 50 minutes
of waiting for the doctor to come into the room, and less..less than
10 minutes of exam..when they found out I wasnt covered by Cobra. For
that..they charged me $18,000. Bronchitis.....
I was home recovering from surgery..in fact..still had 178 staples in
me..and they called and wanted their money. I told them "Ill pay you
just as soon as I get my settlement" The gal asked.."what
settlement?" "Well Im at home recovering from a triple bypass that
damned near killed me..but you diagnosed all the symptoms as
Bronchitis..so Im going to sue the hell out of you. I ought to get a
million or so. Then Ill pay you your $18k"
Long pause on the phone..and then she asked where Id had it done...I
told her..and she said she'd call me back in a few minutes. 30 minutes
later..she called back..said they were dropping the charges to zero
and then appologized for the misdiagnosis. Ive never heard from them
since. I really..really should have sued the **** out of them AND
Loma Linda. But..Im not a big believer in law suits for that sort of
thing. Now if they had caught it..Id never had that pesky heart
attack..nor the bypass..nor the stroke. So Im still a might ****ed
off. But..they didnt kill me. Shrug.
I should mention that when I was taken in for the stroke by
Arrowhead..they told me to "sign these papers"..I would go on
permanant disability and the government would take care of me from
then on. I looked at her..and drooled out.."are you kidding? Ive got
clients who depend on me..Ill be back to work in a week or two" She
looked at me funny..and left. Seems only 5% or less of folks have a
stroke after heart surgery..and it usually either kills them....or
****s them up for life.
2 days after I got out..I made (2) service calls for clients and got
their machines running. Of course..I couldnt remember their
names..but I could fix the machines properly and quickly. The wife
had to tell me what town they were in..but I remembered how to get
there and I drove myself..though she did ride along to make sure I
wouldnt get lost. No problem with that at all. Shrug...took a couple
more weeks for the slurring and drooling to stop..and for me to get
back to :normal". Still not great with names..but 300% better today
than I was. Folks like Larry and many others have been to the
house...they can tell you Im almost normal..I dont drool much and I
can even speak where a guy can almost understand me. Though I
did..did lose most of the several languages I could babble
out..Vietnamese, German, some Russian..Jari..the usual. Shrug
I have a CCW...and I didnt carry a weapon for almost a year..just out
of personal concern for my judgement. I could have...but I had some
anger issues as a result of the effects of the stoke..frustration and
fear mostly..but I didnt have any issues..so I started carrying again.
Had to go to my biyearly CCW requal. Id not shot for over a
year..closer to 2 yrs. Went to the class, got 100% on the paper
tests..went to the range and loaded my weapon for the first time
in..call it 18 months...fired 2 rounds..out in the 8 ring..and it all
came back..snapped back like a machine...the rest of the 60 rds were
my normal 10s and Xs. High score as usual..and 2 weeks later..entered
a combat match, took first place, rifle, shotgun and handgun. Couldnt
remember the names of my fellow shooters...chuckle..but the muscle
memory was working just fine...and I knew who they were...asked "hows
that new baby doing" and did you ever get that new AR you were talking
about 2 yrs ago?" and so on. Im fairly well known in the shooting
circles...Ive known some of those guys for 30 yrs..I simply couldnt
remember their names. I knew what kind of guns they prefered and who
was my competition and who wasnt...just the names were gone. But..tell
me their names once or twice..and I didnt forget. So I wasnt too
****ed up.
Its gotten a lot better since then and Im pretty much back to normal.
As you may recall..I didnt stop posting here on Usenet during that
time either. Which certainly helped refresh the memory. Though to be
fair... Ive read some of my posts right after the stroke..and I
noticed the difference in what I wrote..but then..people do
evolve...particularly after a lil thing like a stroke. Not much long
term drain bamage (Grin)..just enough to **** me off a mite. Mostly
all better now though..and I wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy. Better
to simply kill em..than hobble em with a stroke. Now to be fair..a lot
of posters were born brain damaged...so if they had a stroke...they
would be well and deeply ****ed..more so than now.
Now Im even meaner than I was before..and take less **** from
dickheads and dildobreaths. During my 62 or so years here on Earth...
Ive been shot, stabbed, bayoneted, blown up, knocked down, bucked off,
gored, run over, dragged and beaten bloody..even fell off a mountain
once..so a little thing like heart surgery and a pesky little
stroke...no problem. My hide has more big assed dimples and zippers
than Id care to count. And I rememer how I got each and every one of
them.
What..nothing else to say? Works for me.
Gunner, getting ready to go down to Riverside California for service
calls through Friday..and letting his new teeth rest in the jar. Gonna
take some getting used to..that and dealing with the slurring.
Almost...like dealing with the after effects of ..a stroke.
Almost.