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They just got free US money to rebuild industry and we had to
pay enormous debts to the yanks.

Because Britain declared war over Poland.

Ah, so WW2 was all our fault.

No, but when you declare war, it is reasonable
to have to pay for the cost of winning that war.

Clearly attempting to make Germany pay for the war it
started didn't work after WW1 and just produced WW2.

It all started with World War One actually. The idea that all the nations
of Europe
could afford to have millions of men mobilised for four years, in muddy
trenches
or deserts, all getting paid, fed, and clothed, their wives getting
allowances,
the men getting wounded many of them or getting killed, their wives widows
pensioners. While spending millions on shells to land in muddy fields -
not anyone producing anything worth selling or generating any income at
all. Regardless of the tragic loss of life and "lost generation" the idea
that anyone could ever think this was economically affordable is
ludicrous.

And yet WW2 was clearly economically affordable for the US and they
even had enough of a clue to do the Marshall Plan after that to ensure
that we wouldn’t see another world war started by the losers again.

The UK has been on the back foot ever since 1916

It was on the back foot well before that, essentially
because the US had left it for dead economically.

when she first had to borrow from the US

Because the US had left it for dead economically.

- the only real victor in both world wars.

And yet Britain got involved in WW2 instead
of agreeing to differ with the krauts.

The rest of the "victorious allies" ended up, up to their ears in debt

So did the US.

with no money available to build "homes fit for heroes" or anything else.

That's bull****. There was plenty of perfectly adequate housing
built to replace what had been rendered unliveable by the war.

And so understanably maybe, they were in no mood to be magnanimous to the
Germans.

Sure, it took the yanks to have the vision to do the
Marshall Plan which worked very effectively indeed.
And other stuff like buying low level military hardware
used in the Korean War from the Japs which got that
industry off its knees very effectively indeed.

Despite Keynes being proved right.

The Kaiser meanwhile lasted out his days until 1936 in comfortable
retirement in his villa in Holland. Same as the wonky eyed scum-bag
Ludendorf who was directly responsible for my grandad getting killed. And
who lasted until 1937, peddling the "stab in the back" myth to the nazis
so as to get himself off the hook. *******.

Least Adolf and many of his most senior
arseholes had the balls to kill themselves.

More than you can say for that clown Hirohito.