whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
whisky-dave wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Dave Plowman (News) wrote

Many older town pubs don't even have car parks.

The pub itself doesn't need to have a car park, what matters is
if there is parking available at the time the pub is used, stupid.

Of course stupid, cars park in things called car parks
when there's no where else they are allowed to park.

You quite sure you aren't one of those rocket scientist terminal ****wits
?

I've no idea what they are.

Look in the mirror.

Why would pubs have car parks paying for
their upkeep etc.. if they weren't needed.

Plenty don't need to.

Maybe that's why they don't have them, but
doesn't explain why some pubs have them.

Wrong, as always.

My local aquarium place shut down for similar reasons,

Nope.

when they made the road a bus lane no one could park near
his shop even the delivery drivers had problems, so he sold
up in the end. My local has a car park, seems a waste of time
parking a car there when you could be driving past.

Your problem, as always.

I had three local pubs once all within
easy walking distance. Only one left.

And that is another reason why pub traffic is dying,
because far fewer have a pub they can walk to now
and the crack down on drink driving means that if
you can't walk to the pub, it makes more sense to
spend a lot less on the grog and drink at home where
you don't have to worry about being over the limit.

Yep some even make their own alcohol so they don't
have top walk to the shops to buy it, it saves money
too, and yuo arebn;t stung for by the tax either.

And you get a better result than you can buy too.

'can' perhaps

No perhaps about it.

but unlikely too,

Wrong, as always.

but it does depend on what you mean by a better result.

Nope.

It's got pretty well nothing to do with smoking or driving.

Wrong as always with the driving.

And if you don't believe that the driving is relevant,
you might care to explain what has seen the traffic
in pubs drop so dramatically over time.

traffic in pubs is this some sort of
'drive thru' bar I've not heard about.

You'll end up completely blind if you don't watch out, boy.

I wouldn't drink the dodgey **** you do.

You clearly drink much more dodgy **** than I do.