On Wed, 27 May 2015 21:14:46 +0100, bert wrote:

Perhaps I am odd, then. Expecting a fair trial for everyone.
Regardless.

Quite.

Perhaps TNP would like to explain exactly which of the convention rights
it is that he takes exception to, and why.

And what about responsibilities? Is it not everyone's responsibility if
they wish to claim their rights also to accept the responsibility of
being basically law abiding? Which take priority?

Mmm. You really don't quite understand the concept, do you?

There is already plenty of law that says "Don't do list of naughty
things, or you will be punished".

Human rights legislation is intended to prevent PEOPLE from GOVERNMENTS.
It includes lots of caveats about where things (loss of liberty,
f'rinstance) which might otherwise be breaches of human rights are
perfectly OK where the thing...
clears throat, quotes from EConvHR
"is in accordance with the law and is necessary in a democratic society
in the interests of national security, public safety or the economic well-
being of the country, for the prevention of disorder or crime, for the
protection of health or morals, or for the protection of the rights and
freedoms of others."

Seems fairly clear to me.