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On Tuesday, 5 May 2015 16:11:28 UTC+1, Dennis@home wrote:
On 05/05/2015 12:59, whisky-dave wrote:


stop releasing security fixes


Like MS have with XP.


But they haven't.


Really.

http://windows.microsoft.com/en-gb/w...d-support-help
How do I stay protected?

To stay protected now that support has ended, you have two options:
Upgrade your current PC

Get a new PC
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up their on their own website.



release apps that use stuff in the new OS but not in yours ..


Maybe it's time to update your OS then, it's the persons choice. if
you want to use something youre old OS doesn't ssupport.


Well yes its easy on a PC but try that with Apple and they will refuse
to install the new OS on the grounds that you won't have a good
experience, which others have shown to be untrue in many cases.


Wrong.
on my 2010 manin I've installed teh lasted OS yosmite and that's on a 5 year old mac and it cost NOTHING.



MS disable some aspects of the software the day you purchase
it,

Which ones?

Then why have difernt versions if nothing is missing ?

You buy an OS and M$ do not disable anything. You know what you are
buying.


Most don;t as they buy from 3rd party's. Yopu usually buy oit with a
copy of windows, it's the same software as the pro windows but on the
hokme editions and education editions they remove certain things. On
the last one I came across is was teh abilitye to reisntall windows
on a new machine, because that wasnt; part of the home edition.


They don't disable anything, its a cheap OEM version that they get for a
reduced price because it is tied to that machine.


Yep tied to that machine exactly.


If you buy a retail
version you can move it when you like.


Depends which retail version doesn;t it.
And teh features of that retail version are differnt from other retail versions.


Apple won't let you put their OS onto anything that isn't their hardware
even though it runs on PCs.


Peolpe can do it if they want to, they do it's called hackintosh.
and as Apple are using their hardware sales to suport softeare so why should they give it way free to PC users MS don;t give office or their OS away free to Mac users.



Old Apple copmputers tend to work far longer than others do,
which is one of teh reason Aplpe products keep thier valuse far
more than PCs do especially labtops.


Rubbish.

No it isn't people have to replace their PCs far more often than Mac
users do.

Old apple computers cost so much to replace people don't throw them
away like they do with windows PCs.


Thta's because they are still usable


So are the PCs.


so why aren't more older PC laptoips still in use.
check out teh price of a 5 year old PC laptop and compare that to a 5 year old Mac laptop.



You can get a perfectly good windows laptop for £150 or less so
people just treat them as disposable items.


Because they are.


And?

Peole use disposable nappies, disposable hander chiefs.
There's a reason why they aer disposable.


Apple gets *hardware* developed and sells it. (They don't
develop much hardware themselves.)

apart from some chips, such as the specail controller for
the retina displays. and a lopt of the ipad/iphone chips.

They don't develop hardware, they sub contract it out.

They do the A chips for the ipad and iphone they develop the chip
and get intel or someone to make it.

They didn't design the original Intel macs at all, Intel did
it.

Yes they did Intel designed the chips. The foirst imacs had PPC
chips intel didn't design those macs and niether did IBM.


Read what I said instead of making stuff up.


I did and you are wrong. Aple do their own hardware. That's why PC
companies play catchup with the ultrabook trying to copy the macbook
air. Lok at virtually every single PC laptop the vast majority are
trying to look like apple devices.


Intel have been driving Mac designs for a while now.


complete rubbish.
The design of teh mac has little to do with the processor.


They also drive PCs to a lesser extent.

Its odd that many of the new PCs have touch screens and pen input unlike
the apple ones you think they are copying.


Apple won;t go down that route until it works properly.


Apple even had to copy the idea for tablets from the PC world.

PC world aren't manufactors

Come to think about it they copied mice (and got it wrong!),


they got it right a $300 mouse came down to about $15 to make.
That was steve jobs directive when his saw who the mice ran on the xerox workstatiions. PC where still command line.


computers we has computers,
laptops, tablets, phones, watches, ..
Is there anything apple have done that someone else hadn't done first?


but not properly or to make a profit or availble to the average users.
Word asd a WYSIWYG ran on a mac before windows even came out.
Windows copied Mac . Mac 1984 windows 1985 (novemeber)
They are still playing catch up, why do you think they are calling it windows 10 because it's the tenth version of windows ?