On 28/04/15 22:56, Tim w wrote:
You know that Fascism wasn't defeated in Europe by people dreaming of a
world of ready-meals and Ant and Dec?

No. it was defeated by hard works and superior technology actually, and
a bit of luck.

Not by faith hope and vision.

The joke is that your mind set - the fluffy bunny hopeful vision - is
far far nearer the third Reich view than ours. You are in fact the
fascist dream that has to be defeated because its not actually rooted in
reality.

WE are the engineers who understand engineering, and who actually have
been creating all the new technology that you get so emotional about,
all our lives, which is why we implicitly understand things like the
laws of thermodynamics, and why they make synthetic fuel interesting,
but in the end if you can get it made for you out of the ground,
completely commercially useless.


All this poetic fluffy bunny stuff is handy to tell people where in fact
they want to get to. Science and technology can't tell a human being
where they should be heading, after all. But once you know where you are
trying to get, then the last things you want is a poet. You want a
navigator, a mechanic and a driver.

And you had better listen if they tell you that the way you think you
want to go, is actually ten times longer than the way they know.

The point in this case being the 'green' technology is not actually new
technology at all. Its old technology dressed up to con people in a
massive global marketing campaign. NONE of it works better than what it
(is supposed to) replace at all. And all of it costs more.

Do you really thi8nk that the chemical principle of reversing an
exothermic reaction like burning hydrocarbons to get energy and water
and carbon dioxide, hasn't occurred to someone like 100 years ago? And
they indeed managed to find ways to do it too?

But there was no point in building chemical plants to do it, because
fuel made that way is ten times more expensive than digging or drilling
it out of the ground?

No green technology exists without massive subsidies. Its all a house of
cards.

I've actually lived in a country that fr a time w3as making synthetic
fuel. South Africa, under embargo, made petrol from coal and from
fermented maize.

Hitler's Germany was also making fuel from coal and other raw materials.

You can do it, but its very very expensive.




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