"Capitol" wrote in message
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Tim w wrote:
On 28/04/2015 21:17, Tim Streater wrote:
In article , Tim w
wrote:

On 28/04/2015 20:52, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 28/04/15 19:46, alan_m wrote:
On 28/04/2015 17:24, Capitol wrote:

It looks like snake oil. The efficiency of the process is not
mentioned. What is the cost per litre of production?

And how much energy is required in the production? I also suspect
that
the "direct air capture" is a heavily subsidised processes looking
for a
market for the output.

Its just more technobollox trying to keep the green wet dream alive.

Like all green****e, its technically possible and commercially
catastrophic.

People like you with no vision, no faith and no hope for the future
are living walking tragedies.

Well that may be true but doesn't alter reality. Reality isn't
interested in faith, hope, or vision.


That kind of wilful ignorance is just dumb posturing. I take it you have
some kind of education? and know something about history, culture and
the world. You know that Coleridge didn't take up poetry because he
thought it would be an easy way to earn a few Bob? You know that Fascism
wasn't defeated in Europe by people dreaming of a world of ready-meals
and Ant and Dec? That the great acheivements of humanity like the
emancipation of slaves and the eradication of smallpox were all
victories fought by people who didn't accept the shallow, complacent
wisdom that said 'That's just the reality'? But still you pretend you
can't see beyond your own nose and that change in the world is driven by
the relentless petty choices of small minded people always selecting the
cheapest option. You know it isn't. Change comes about through vision
and imagination and belief in our ability to bring it about. You know
that already.

Change often comes about by accident or by reinvestigating an anomaly from
past results. The chances of getting this fuel process to be economic IMO
are close to zero.

Zero in fact given that there are much better sources of carbon than the
air.

Very few people achieve major worthwhile
change by design. Cold fusion seems to be a good case in point. Hope for
the future comes from the young who just don't know it isn't possible.
When a process is economically sound, it will happen, until then nothing
will change. Lithium batteries are a good example.

Slavery died out largely because it was uneconomic, as much as for any
other reason.

That is wrong.

The majority of people will try to choose the cheapest long term solution,
as that's all they can afford.

And so is that.