On 17/04/2015 08:28, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 16 Apr 2015 23:45:47 +0100, John Rumm wrote:

The NHS is a 60-year mistake.

Well, who's to say that it isn't.

Considering the US was being held up as the model to aspire to...

Straw man alert!

Umm, no.

Much as people close down conversations on immigration etc by crying
"racist", people try the same diversion when discussing the NHS by
claiming anyone wanting to make changes to it must be proffering the US
system as an alternative.

Small problem. It actually WAS being held up as the better alternative.

By who, and where?

Just the same as when people say "No immigration - well, except for nice
white Christian-origin Northern Europeans and North Americans and
Australians and the like, because they're like us, so they're OK" usually
IS because the person saying it is a bigot.

Even then it may have nothing to do with bigotry.

A large influx of people will tend to change the culture of the area
into which they flow. If they are of similar culture then that change
will be relatively small, and less disruptive to the pre-existing
population than if they are from a dramatically different culture. Not
all cultural changes are going to be for the good.

Even in cases where they are culturally similar, a large influx into a
small area will cause a dramatic change in the demand level for local
services. These will take time to scale to the new demand, and during
that time, the pre-existing population will suffer poorer service.

--
Cheers,

John.

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