"Kevin Aylward" wrote in message ...
Andrew VK3BFA wrote:
"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
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Chris Carlen wrote:

Use what works - if a little white pill once a day works for you, then
do it. If years of counselling/psychotherapy/holistic/remove the
problem/change your diet/ works for you, then use that method.

The little white pill method works if you are surrounded by crap you
cant control,

If you learn to change it then you have a _real_ solution.

The pill, is arguably for hard *physical* causes.

the other methods work if you can change your
environment to eliminate or reduce the stressors.

Or change the way you react to your environment, or both.
Bear in mind we're talking about depression here, not different things
like schizophrenia, which is another ballpark entirely.


there is no clearly superior model (it would
have emerged by now if that was so)

It is interesting to see folks put so much energy into arguing that
something can't be done, instead of going and finding those who've
done it. Human nature is a curious thing. I think we are all limited
by our thinking traps. While we gradually recognise them and get free
of them, we never see and eliminate all of them by any means. And all
the discussoin in the world only occasionally changes that.


In a particular instance there is often a superior method. For certain
conditions, there are well tried methods. The issue is determining what
the cause of the problem is.

I would say the real issue was determining which approach works, and
which can be applied. The theories behind it aren't the real issue,
the results are.


One has to accept that the brain can "malfunction" for at least two
independent reasons, either by physical processes e.g. lack of some
chemical *or* some sort of brainwashing.

To really understand the subject one also has to understand that there
is far more to it than this.


It don't make sense to try and
fix your allocation problem in software if the problem is a fried memory
chip, neither does it make sense to add to add 100 speed up processors
if the code is slow because of wait loops.

Thats right. Yet it is tried all the time by those who
a) dont know the causes
b) haven't gone and found out what works.


This is one of those subjects thats probably going to change a lot in
the coming decades.

Regards, NT