On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 11:49:40 -0600, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 07:49:51 -0800, Larry Jaques wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 22:19:35 -0600, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Thu, 22 Jan 2015 23:36:24 +0000, John Doe wrote:

Anybody do the research? I will look around. I guess "elastomer" is
another name for plastic. Generally speaking... Is it durable as steel
for Springs?
I'm thinking about the elastomer springs on a bicycle seat/saddle.
They might require less rigid structure than steel springs, so maybe
there's less chance of them breaking off of the saddle.

"Elastomer" is High Falutin for rubber, urethane, etc.

AFAIK there's a lot of opportunity to make things better as well as a
lot of opportunity to screw things up -- there's a huge range of
available materials, they'll be more likely than steel to not age well,
and you'll need to select one that withstands the elements.

But, having said all that -- who knows, it may work great.

Or not. I was curious and googledit.
http://dirtmountainbike.com/features...bike-products-
ever.html/4#iAPD8PXaJPcHMKVW.97

That would come under my "opportunity to screw things up". Just tossing a
hunk of randomly-cut, randomly-chosen rubbery plastic in between a couple
of pieces of steel is probably not going to lead to joy.

Anything that _does_ work is probably going to require a lot of trial and
error, and careful testing after you've perfected the product to make sure
that you haven't just trained your butt to like what you've made, instead
of making a seat that everyone else's butt will like.

(What serious rider actually puts weight on a bicycle seat? If you're
sitting on the damned seat you're not riding the bike as fast as humanly
possible. You can't pedal hard with your butt on the seat, on the
downhill you can't stand on the pedals to minimize the unsprung weight of
the assembly with your butt on the seat -- the seat is just there to stick
between your thighs and help you control the bike, for god's sake!)

While you are correct that, at least for short distances, a bicycle
can be ridden faster by standing on the pedals but "sprinting" is
really a very short distance effort. An average Tour de France stage
is about 174 Kilometers (about 108 Miles) and they averaged a speed of
40.69 kph (25.28 MPH) over these distances. Probably the fastest
sprinters are the Japanese Keirin racers who can reach speeds of ~70
KPH (43.5 MPH)... for very short distances, less then one lap of the
track.

In short while you may be able to go real fast out of the saddle you
can't go very far.
--
Cheers,

John B.