Mike Marlow wrote:
Keith Nuttle wrote:
On 10/27/2014 10:15 PM, Mike Marlow wrote:
Jonathan Williams wrote:
Bill wrote, on Mon, 27 Oct 2014 13:37:49 -0400:

I vaguely recollect a toilet seat being one of them. Like a pink
wrench, no one will steal it.
One teacher in this San Jose school district,uses a toilet plunger,
for the same effect.
It's pretty pathetic when people earning upwards of $100K a year (or
more), who deal with children, have to resort to this kind of
question and discussion. Really? Stupid ideas like toilet seats,
wrenchs, plungers? Good grief - this is foolish. The entire topic
was nothing short of foolish.

I agree there is foolishness in this thread, BUT the foolishness is
not that the discussion is taking place, but that the teacher must
revert to such things to keeps some sort of order in the class room. Where
are the parents supporting the teacher to keep these little
criminals from disrupting the class room.

Oh I forgot they were brought up to have self esteem not be to be good
citizen, and respect the people who are trying to help them learn
Agreed - that was the point I was trying to make but I think I got a little
off track and did not make my point well. For godssake - can't a teacher
with a Masters degree figure out how to deal with kids?

Mike, I think that you may be overlooking the fact that the kids you and
I went to school with are not the same as the kids of today, at least not
the dilemma varies by school district, I think.
This sort of reminds me of something a previous boss of mine use to say:
"When you're up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember that
your original intention was to drain the swamp!" : )



They sure did when
I went to school. Parents - well that's a whole 'nother topic...

As for this whole foolishness of self-esteem - well...