On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 19:52:53 +0700, John B. Slocomb
wrote:

On Mon, 27 Oct 2014 02:00:18 -0700, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:21:39 -0500, Richard
wrote:

On 10/26/2014 3:13 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:

Not all boats are Beaters.

In fact..most of the boats below in the two groups are NOT beaters,
but perfectly good usable boats. Yep..some need lines or a sail
patch..shrug.


Sail PATCH?

Are you for freaking real?

Buy a suit of sail.

Oh my, not in YOUR budget?


Punch a hole in a sail and spend $10 for a roll of sail tape..or spend
$1800 for a new sail. Your choice. As for me...Ill simply put on a
bit of sail tape and keep on sailing. You do know that is a suggested
item in offshore cruising kits right along with flare guns and
PFDs..right?


You know? I spent about 15 years living aboard and sailing off shore
and I don't believe I ever saw an "off shore cruising boat" that had
"sail tape". In fact I'm not sure that some of them would even knew
what it was. One reason, perhaps, is that a cruising sailor doesn't
punch a hole in a sail.

This is getting ridiculous, and it leaves me in the uncomfortable
position of defending Gunner. g

I'd like to know what you mean by "sailing offshore." If you mean
coastwise cruising, and if you head for harbor when the wind is above
20 knots, then more power to you. If you mean you're cruising in blue
water, and if you don't have sail tape in your emergency kit, then
you're one lucky dude. (What do you have in that kit, tarred rope and
a sailor's palm?) Or you buy new sails every year, you oversheet your
main so your batten pockets never luff and chafe...in which case,
you're still a lucky dude if you haven't gotten knocked overboard from
an unexpected jibe. g

I've never been a bluewater sailor, but I've done some coastwise
racing, and we *always* had sail tape and patch cloth in the emergency
kit. 'Never had to use them, but I never sailed outside, between
inlets, anyway, with anyone who didn't have a sail-repair kit with
them.


For that matter I never, in 15 years, met anyone with a "PFD", or at
least they wouldn't admit to even knowing what one was. A life jacket,
certainly, but a PFD? Oh la-de-dah, and a flick of the limp wrist to
you too.

They damned well better know what a PFD is. It's in the U.S. Coast
Guard regulations and the regulations of every state that I know of.

Of course we call them "life jackets." But they're regulated as
"PFDs."

Something is fishy here.



Personally...that Champaign taste of yours makes you look like an
idiot. But hey....its your bucks. Some good lofts out that that will
make you a nice new sail for lots of money. But hey...you can afford
to rerig every 6 months..so go for it!

As for me...nope...not in my budget. Should it be? Right alongside
mink covered toilet seats too eh?

Gunner

"At the core of liberalism is the spoiled child,
miserable, as all spoiled children are, unsatisfied,
demanding, ill-disciplined, despotic and useless.
Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats."
PJ O'Rourke

Richard sails in lakes and can afford a new sail when he wants one. I
just don't get the idea of someone with 15 years of ocean cruising
experience who doesn't carry a sail-repair kit; for the last 50 years
or so, that includes tape.

So, Gunner is one of those low-bucks sailors. I can't criticize that.
The yachty types may trade in their boats when the gel coat fades (no
paint, Richard? Puleeeze....). Maybe they call the yacht club when
they get a tear in their sail. That's not what Gunner is doing. And he
appears to be having a lot of fun at it, anyway.

--
Ed Huntress