On Wed, 24 Sep 2014 07:48:05 -0400, "snafu"
wrote:

"J Burns" wrote in message ...

I bought tires a couple of months ago. Yesterday I tried to remove a
wheel to check the bearing. The nuts wouldn't budge.

They're supposed to be torqued to about 65 foot-pounds. After letting
penetrating oil work overnight, I got 15 of the 16 nuts with a cruciform
wrench with 10" arms. I used a pipe to extend one arm and stood on the
other.

I believe I'm applying well over 200 foot-pounds. The wrench twists so
far that I think more force would be dangerous. I'll see what tools
neighbors have, or maybe go to a mechanic.

Can I have the dealer and his crew sent to prison?

A few years ago a tire on my Toyota truck was losing air. When I tried (with
helpers) to remove the wheel, two of the six lugs snapped off and we
couldn't budge the other four. To make a long story short, I was later told
that Toyota (and I think Mazda) were notorious for using soft metal on their
lugs which could be easily cross-threaded and essentially welded to the nut.
So in addition to replacing the tire I had all 24 lugs replaced.
Toyota had no more problems with soft lug bolts than anyone else.
Perhaps some problems with soft alloy lug NUTS - but not any worse
than any other company in my experience. We always lubed the studs
before installing the nuts - just a light touch of anti-seize.