On Wednesday, September 24, 2014 7:48:05 AM UTC-4, snafu wrote:
"J Burns" wrote in message ...



I bought tires a couple of months ago. Yesterday I tried to remove a

wheel to check the bearing. The nuts wouldn't budge.



They're supposed to be torqued to about 65 foot-pounds. After letting

penetrating oil work overnight, I got 15 of the 16 nuts with a cruciform

wrench with 10" arms. I used a pipe to extend one arm and stood on the

other.



I believe I'm applying well over 200 foot-pounds. The wrench twists so

far that I think more force would be dangerous. I'll see what tools

neighbors have, or maybe go to a mechanic.



Can I have the dealer and his crew sent to prison?



A few years ago a tire on my Toyota truck was losing air. When I tried (with

helpers) to remove the wheel, two of the six lugs snapped off and we

couldn't budge the other four. To make a long story short, I was later told

that Toyota (and I think Mazda) were notorious for using soft metal on their

lugs which could be easily cross-threaded and essentially welded to the nut.

So in addition to replacing the tire I had all 24 lugs replaced.

A friend of mine had the lug bolts put on his car super tight by
a tire place too. He went back to complain. The manager came out
with a torque wrench, showed him what the wrench was set to, then
put it on one of the bolts, applied pressure until the wrench clicked.
Whereupon he said "See, that shows that they are torqued to the right
amount".

Which goes to show you, even the right eqpt is useless in the hands of
an idiot. Personally, I use an electric impact wrench and just do it
based on experience. Haven't had a problem yet.