On 19/09/2014 17:45, Jabba wrote:
"Nightjar \"cpb\"@" "insert my surname here wrote


On 19/09/2014 14:01, Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 19 Sep 2014 13:45:35 +0100, Nightjar \"cpb\"@ wrote:

What is needed is to make every vote count (just as it did in this
referendum). Round here the Tories have such a big majority its not
worth getting off your arse to vote anything else.

Damn that democracy, where the candidate with the most support wins the
right to represent the entire constituency.

It would be far more democratic if each party got seats in Parliament in
proportion to the total number of votes they received in the country.

Except that to do so would completely break local accountability.

Which is entirely irrelevant to whether or not what we have now is
democratic.

Surely it's better to have your local party select the candidate for your
constituency, a real live individual based on local issues*, than a
"party list" of anonymous could-be-anybody national party yes men?

* - yes, I know that's not what often happens, but that's entirely down
to the local parties not standing up for themselves.

In light of recent events, it may be time for a complete revision of
government. In order to gain parity with the other countries in the
Union, England should get its own assembly to control purely English
matters. If there is merit in local accountability (and I am not
convinced it has any effect), the four national assemblies could be
voted for on the constituency system.

Above the national assemblies, there would be a UK parliament, to
consider only those things that affect two or more countries of the
Union. That could be smaller than the existing parliament and could be
made up of MPs drawn from those voted into the national assemblies, in
proportion to the overall number of votes each party received. With
modern technology, there would also be scope for allowing the populace
to have a say in some, if not all, major decisions.


Pipe dream - thank ****.

Have you seen the quality of the politician in the Welsh Assembly? 90%
****ing clueless.

All the more reason why Welsh MPs shouldn't have a say in what happens
in England.

As for PR - WTF wants a Parliment like the Italians have?

It is not PR. It is the same system as we have now, with the MPs sitting
in four separate houses, depending upon the nationality of their
constituency. A sub-committee of those MPs deals with matters that
affect more than one country in the union and only that sub-committee is
selected using PR.

In any case, that was simply one option I came up with while sitting at
the keyboard. Offers are open for others that are an improvement on what
we have now and that give voters in England a similar voice to those in
other parts of the UK.


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Colin Bignell