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On Monday, September 8, 2014 9:35:42 PM UTC-4, BenDarrenBach wrote:
On Monday, September 8, 2014 6:58:57 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:

On Monday, September 8, 2014 6:03:02 PM UTC-4, BenDarrenBach wrote:




On Monday, September 8, 2014 4:54:49 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:








On Monday, September 8, 2014 5:32:16 PM UTC-4, BenDarrenBach wrote:
















On Monday, September 8, 2014 2:41:49 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
































On Monday, September 8, 2014 2:45:24 PM UTC-4, BenDarrenBach wrote:
































































On Monday, September 8, 2014 7:48:42 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
































































































































































































































































They're basically the same thing. A thermopile is just more than one
































































































































































































































































thermocouple chained together.
































































































































































































































































They can be used together (in some applications) and some use 2 thermopiles (one for the control valve and one for a damper motor as an example). But they are totally different in output and manufacture. TC outputs around 30mV and TP about 750mV. And they look very different. http://i1181photobucket.com/albums/x430/BenDarrenBach/TCvsTP_zpsf9de3493.jpg
































































































































































































































































http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thermopile
































































































































A thermopile is an electronic device that converts thermal energy into electrical energy. It is composed of several thermocouples connected usually in series or, less commonly, in parallel.
































































































































Idiot.
































































I have worked on this stuff...you can be complacent with Wiki's answer, but it IS wrong. You will have to swallow your pride and you hate to do that.
































In what way is the wiki answer, which is completely consistent with what
















I posted wrong? And how does any of that matter with regard to Julie's
















problem? The thermopile has been replaced numerous times.
















If you would have tried another source (any other) you would have found they were in error. You didn't try hard enough this time...you are wrong because you used a poor source for your rhetoric.








In other words, the "expert" with "experience" can't explain what's




wrong with what Wiki stated, because there is nothing wrong with it




or what I posted.








Idiot.




Obviously you looked no further than your precious ego would allow...even the pictures of each show their difference. Since you believe you are always correct, you either won't look further for fear you're wrong...or you know you are mistaken. Loser.


Does a picture of a long flashlight that holds 6 batteries look the same as
the picture of one that holds only one battery? The larger one still operates
using the same exact technology, just multiple batteries in series.
Does the picture affect that the operating physics are exactly the same? That they both supply a small amount of power to keep the gas valve open? That the thermopile is just several thermocouples assembled together? (Exactly what both I and Wiki said) That they are frequently just referred to as thermocouples?
There are difference in looks between even thermocouples of various design too.
And please tell us what the slight differences in how various ones look have
to do with anything, especially Julia's problem?

Idiot.