On Thursday, August 14, 2014 8:35:13 AM UTC-4, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 08/14/14 06:00 am, Ed Pawlowski wrote:



Estimated delivery 8/15/2014 12:00 am



Apparenty they will deliver it at midnight. That is devotion.



Either that or a big international company doesn't know what 12 am

means.





I'm not certain what 12 am means.



11:59 am or 12:01 pm would be better choices.



Most of us learned that in 5th grade or before. 12 AM is midnight. 12

PM is noon. There would be less confusion in the world with a 24 hour

clock. We all know that 00:00 is 24:00



Then you learned wrong: the "M" in "AM" and "PM" is "meridiem" =

"midday" = "noon"; the "A" and "P" are "ante" (= "before") and "post" (=

"after"), respectively. So 12:00 (using the 12-hour clock) is either

noon or midnight, and 12:00 AM is twelve hours before noon and 12:00 PM

is twelve hours after noon. Using "12:00 PM" to mean "noon" is nonsense.

"12 noon," or "12:00 noon," or simply "noon" or "midday" are the only

proper/logical/sensible ways to designate what you are telling us is

"12:00 PM."



Get with the program: 24-hour clock, metric weights and measures, and

dates given as yyyy/mm/dd.



Perce

I don't see how calling 12PM noon is inconsistent with what you just
posted regarding ante and post. If you start with 12:00XM being high
noon, then clearly 11AM is one hour before that, 1PM is one hour after
high noon. Following that, 12:01 AM is almost 12 hours before noon and
1 minute after midnight and 11:59PM is almost 12 hours after noon and
one minute before midnight. The question is what then to do with the
two singular points. Is noon to be either 12AM or 12PM? Or is it to
be both? Obviously it needs to be settled to avoid mass confusion.
Which even you recognize would result:

"So 12:00 (using the 12-hour clock) is either
noon or midnight, and 12:00 AM is twelve hours before noon and 12:00 PM
is twelve hours after noon."

And it has bee settled, 12PM is called noon and 12AM is midnight.
Ed learned it correctly. Everyone I know understands that 12PM = noon,
12AM equals midnight.