On Tuesday, July 29, 2014 6:56:22 PM UTC-4, Lloyd E. Sponenburgh wrote:
"Jim Wilkins" fired this volley in news:lr96t1$vtm

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Consumer devices that use exposed high voltage limit the current to

low levels, so to someone who can't tell cause from effect high

voltage can be misconstrued as being safer than line voltage.

-jsw

Please, Jim. I'm not dumb.

Well, you aren't deaf and dumb, so you can hear and talk. Right?

But I'm not a smartass, either.

Great! So now we know you aren't a dumbass, either.

I am a professional (an EE, actually) skilled in pointing out the

Whoa! You? Lloyd? You have a degree in electrical engineering?

obvious, and I speak fluent sarcasm.

Nobody quoting the NEC as his reference can be confused with the "average

consumer".

Outside of electrical contracting, I imagine.

This was a person who claims to fully understand electricity
and all of its hazards.

I didn't claim that, no way. I'm not even a licensed electrician.

Since this has gone around and around, I must assume that I failed to

state my question properly.

Why would it matter, no business is on the line. Is it?

So, here goes another attempt:

To whomever it is who believes to the contrary: Please cite an

authoritative document that states clearly that higher voltage LINE

service - directly from the pole OR through non-GFCI breakers - is safer

against fatal hazard (any kind of fatality will do) than lower-voltage

LINE service similarly connected.

You're probably going to hate the response, but the answer is still the same.
(and I know amdx is now going to run back in wanting to teach about every irrelevancy in the world that he can - outside of solely same-service AC high/low voltage, so let's now see what he has to babble on and on about)

I do have a copy of the 2008 NEC, so that would be a good one to cite.

I just go by NEC quotes from search engines. My actual paper and print NEC book is too far away from me most of the time.

Don't divert the conversation to tasers or Tesla coils, or other

silliness.

But its true. A stun-gun, or even a taser is, in fact, hooked up to its AC battery charging circuitry most of the time, right? That technically qualifies as the answer to your question right there - much, much higher "safer" AC voltage.

Precisely what you asked for. (whether amdx wants to play "professor" and add or "teach us" irrelevant info to that or not, notice he hasn't dare tried to deny it)

Just give me a clear cite about the narrow subject at hand,

-- http://www.defensemaster.com/Air_Tas...ry_charger.htm

and publish the exact wording here, so that we can be certain you have

not misconstrued the meaning; or just lied.

I don't know where you'd get the assumption that people who've worked around electrical construction would "lie" to you, but if you are that interested, then you can read it yourself, or even call and ask yourself. I'm not interested in windbagging it for you.