On 7/12/2014 11:36 AM, wrote:
On Saturday, July 12, 2014 10:52:38 AM UTC-5, Swingman wrote:


Got the stiles (and end panels) scribed _perfectly_ to three of the most

crooked, non-plumb walls I've ever experienced, on a job where NO scribe

moulding is allowed ... still trying to figure out how/why I let myself

in for these things.

OK, where no scribe molding is allowed, how did you do it? The only way I have done that in the past is to build a base, plumb a tall board on a level base, then scribe the offending edge's profile onto it. Then transfer over to the actual stile to hand cut with a saw. It was long and laborious to do.

Inquiring minds, Karl... do tell.


The finisher is there as we speak this morning. Here's hoping the color

match of the top coat pleases the client. I'll know by day's end...

Good luck! I like the symmetry and spacing around that window. It has a "looks like it belongs there" look to it. Great job as usual.

BTW, you might want to check that ladder in the last pic. It looks like Bayer was eyeballing it to "mark" as his...

I was serious about transferring the wall profile to your cabinet edge. Sometimes I think I make things harder than they need to be, so I am always ready to learn something new.

Nothing new, just an old skill/method that still occasionally comes in
handy in the "Caulk Age".

All wall end stiles (both cabinet and shelf unit, wall end stiles) were
made and fit to the cabinets before sanding, but only attached
temporarily with double sided tape, sanded and then stained. Not to be
permanently attached to cabinets until properly scribed to the wall
during installation.

I got lucky with the two base cabinet 'wall end' stiles.

Although with a 3/16" gap at the top, their walls were flat (not plumb),
lower down, so simply angled straight cuts, using the Festool TS-75 and
guide rails, sufficed for a perfect fit to the wall.

Not so with the 74" tall shelf units.

Both walls, higher up, had 3/8" - 1/2" gaps at the top (one with a 3/8"
gap at the bottom as well) and the walls were wavy/buckled (to a 1/4")
in a couple of places on the way up.

The right stile, although wavy, was an old fashioned straightforward,
steady hand/eye, Bosch jig saw scribe job; with just a couple of 1/4"
bump outs, but was flush to the wall at the bottom.

The left wall was a different story.

That stile only touched the wall for a total of 18", starting about 12"
up. There were two 3/16" bumps in the first 12", then flush to the wall
for 18", then a gap, with two 1/4" bump outs, increasing to 1/2" gap at
the 74" high top.

IOW, the farkin' proverbial wall from hell cabinetmaker's nightmare, +10.

For this one I had to make a template out of 1/4" material because, if
the above was not enough to cause angst, there was not enough of a wall
surface to run even a compass scribe along its length, due to the
proximity of the rounded corner of the drywall, all the while holding
the 3/4" thick material in place.

Made a couple of test wall scribes in strips of the 1/4" plywood, cut
out with the jig saw, until I got a perfect scribe cut.

Then carefully transferred that scribe to the real stile; shut out all
distractions; bit the bullet and squeezed the nuts; fired up the jig
saw; and made the jig saw cut with the greatest degree of
carefularity... in the last piece of stock.

.... then prayed all the way back to the jobsite.

It worked.

Used the same method to scribe the pre-finished plywood end panels to
the back walls, but without the drama.

BTW, I started using these a few years back.

https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/phot...t=d irectlink

The little one (yellow/green??) is my favorite goto scribe tool (I'm on
my second of both as they somehow walk off by themselves). For most
scribes you can just use the edge that corresponds to your biggest gap
and be done with it.

The Fastcap works for more challenging situations, like the last above.

In short, way too much work for the average bear in today's world, but
worth being able to do, if nothing else but for the satisfaction of
being able to git'r done WITHOUT caulk and trim ... imagine that.

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