On 7/4/2014 12:21 PM, trader_4 wrote:
On Friday, July 4, 2014 11:58:39 AM UTC-4, Nelly W wrote:
On 7/4/2014 10:12 AM, Gomez wrote:

On 07/03/2014 11:41 PM, Nelly W wrote:

On 7/3/2014 7:13 AM, Gomez wrote:

On 07/02/2014 10:11 PM, Nelly W wrote:

Are no modern dishwashers user-servicable anymore?



Most manufacturers no longer offer repair help because of liability.



Liability for what?

No, I seriously do need it spelled out for me.



Imagine a dishwasher with a leaky fill valve, wet hands, a wet kitchen

floor, 120 volts and an ignorant DIYer.

What could possibly go wrong? Who would our crazy jurors blame and how

many millions would they award the deceased's family?



But don't take my word for it, check out:



http://money.howstuffworks.com/8-out...its.htm#page=0



or google " frivolous lawsuits "



Never underestimate the power of a few stupid jurors.



I don't really know how a leaky fill valve relates to a clogged trap,

but is it possible the latter could lead to overflow? Water on the floor

has the potential for more lucrative suits than someone just getting an

"owwie" on their finger from a ceramic shard.



Did you see the link he provided of how similar "oowies" turned into
major lawsuits? I had not heard of appliance makers refraining from giving
advice due to this, but I can see how any similar business would be concerned
about the possible ramifications.




My other guess is that it was just cheaper to make the units without

that feature, in line with the higher probability of us poor saps having

to replace the unit sooner.



Did you see my previous suggestion to go to an online parts shop,
put in your model and take a look at how it's put together? IT's not
going to tell you how to take it apart, but usually from the diagrams
you can see how it's put together and usually get an idea how to take
it apart.

Yes, and that sounded good until you said "I tried that model # to try
to take a look, but nothing close comes
up and I suspect it's not right." In my haste I misunderstood.
No matter though; I'll call the landlord. With all the other problems
we've called him about since November, they might begin to see us as
nuisance renters & not renew our lease. But until then at least we'll
have clean dishes.




I've often wondered what if any role major appliance mfgrs had in doing

away with all traces of phosphate in the detergents.


I don't see any benefit to the appliance manufacturers. They don't
want ****ed off customers with dishes that aren't clean. AFAIK, it was
environmental concerns, which apparently are real, that lead to the ban
on phosphates.


You don't see any benefit to mfgrs who predict swarms of people with
(otherwise perfectly good) years-old units coming in who no longer have
clean dishes?
As I understood it, those environmental concerns that started this were
very localized.
Unless I'm remembering it wrong.