On Tuesday, 24 June 2014 13:47:20 UTC+1, Bod wrote:
On 24/06/2014 12:21, Rod Speed wrote:





"Bod" wrote in message

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On 24/06/2014 06:16, Rod Speed wrote:





"Bod" wrote in message

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On 23/06/2014 20:02, Dennis@home wrote:

On 23/06/2014 15:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:





Today the majority of people WITH an opinion want to LEAVE the EU.





Which bit of the EU do they want to leave?





Also you don't actually know how many want to leave as there hasn't

been

a vote. Your opinion is almost certainly biased as you probably don't

talk to anyone that wants to stay and they don't talk to you.



Erm, like him or not, Farage has actually got people talking to each

other about the in/out EU issue.



No he hasn't. He is actually the RESULT of a significant

number who have never thought it made any sense.



Ukip has at the very least forced the hand of politicians to listen to

a sizeable proportion of the electorate's dissension.



I don't buy that either.



Then you must have been living in a cave for the last few months,



Nope.



because Farage and the in/out issue debate has been in the news

virtually daily.



Irrelevant to what has driven those who want out of the EU.



Taint Farage.



Farage has forced the hands of the Tories and Labour



Pigs arse he has.



to confront the obvious dissent from many voters regarding the dubious

value of staying in the EU.



That has nothing to do with Farage. There have always

been plenty that never thought it made any sense.



But he has put it top of UKIP's agenda, which has obviously made a lot

more people think about the merits (or not) of exiting the EU.

That;s the important point before UKIP NO party even wanted to mention the EU as regarding in or out.
Spoiling a ballot paper would NEVER have got us out the EU.
Thre's no mark on a ballot paper you can put to get you out of the EU until UKIP.



In other words, he has brought in a lot of the previously apathetic

voters,

Yes because now they can see a point in votiong someone thinks like they do righty or wrongly).


and given them food for thought and he's done it in a refreshing
way. A lot of people relate to his style. All of the rest of our
politicians have a propensity to not being able to answer a straight
yes/no answer in less than a thousand words.

And if tehy do you can bet they aren't exactly telling the truth, but they still expect your vote.