On Mon, 26 May 2014 22:25:12 +0200, nestork
wrote:


'Oren[_2_ Wrote:
;3240746']On Mon, 26 May 2014 18:27:56 +0200, nestork
wrote:
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2. Gun control is something the Americans have talked about amongst
themselves for decades. They have not reached any sort of agreement on
it, and it's just one of those things, like capital punishment,
abortion
and drug laws that are a problem with no good solution.-

Sorry Nestor. Our U.S. Constitution addressed it (thanks to James
Madison), our Supreme Court has addressed it. There is no further
discussion. The gun grabbers lost! End of story.
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Oren:

Democracy has a unique trait that other forms of civil governance don't.
It has a built-in pressure relief valve called "elections". When the
pressure for change reaches a critical point, then that pressure relief
valve starts to function by electing candidates that promise to bring
about the changes that the people want. Having such a pressure relief
valve built into the political system is one of the reasons why real
democracies (like the US and Canada) don't have revolutions like they do
in countries that call themselves democracies, but are really
dictatorships.

The issue of guns is an American issue and I'm not going to stick my
Canadian nose into it. However, to my knowledge James Madison had black
powder single shot muskets in mind when he made those changes to your
constitution that called for a "well armed militia", and therein lies
the difference between gun owners and gun grabbers.

I truly believe, however, that with every public shooting where some
crackpot uses a legally registered gun to kill as many innocent people
as he/she can, the needle on that pressure gauge moves a bit.


Nestork,

The US is not a democracy, it is a constitutional republic. Second, do
you have some sort of proof Madison only considered muskets with regar
to the 2nd amendment?

sparkie

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