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jim

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On Saturday, April 26, 2014 8:35:25 AM UTC-4, jim wrote:
T. Keating wrote:

On Sun, 20 Apr 2014 21:24:22 -0500, jim " wrote:

No you are lying again. The energy cost of producing

higher octane blends without ethanol more than offset

the energy content difference. That is why middle east oil

producing nations buy tankers full of ethanol from the US to

blend with their gasoline.

Please explain if that is true , why Congress has to mandate ethanal useage.

Congress doesn't have to mandate ethanol usage. If the EPA removed the
upper limits on Ethanol even more than the mandated amount would be sold.

But, that implies Congress people and the EPA have
deceived you, and we all know that is utterly impossible.

If it were really cheaper the oil companies would do it so they would make more money.

They would do what? Blend ethanol to the maximum extent the
law allows? That is what the oil companies are doing.

The mandated amount was just recently lowered because the
mandated amount was higher than the amount permitted by
EPA regulation. When the mandates were enacted it was expected
that gasoline usage would go up and by now ethanol usage
would be about 3 or 4 percent of the supply. But gasoline
usage went down and ethanol usage is at about 10% of the
supply and it can't go any higher until the EPA lifts the
limits.

If they had not lowered the mandate it would have
revealed how meaningless the mandates are.

Yes that is how it saves money. It costs money and energy

to boost octane by converting low octane petroleum

fractions to higher octane fractions.

Cite?

Look at a gas pump and see the difference in
price 3 or 4 octane points make in the cost.
Then double the price differential (per gallon) to
reflect the extra burden on refineries to boost the
octane on 20 million gallons a day up 3 octane points.

I already gave a cite, and somebody else did too, but
you are too lazy to educate yourself.

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