On Sun, 13 Apr 2014 12:13:27 -0700 (PDT), Harry K
wrote:

On Sunday, April 13, 2014 8:12:16 AM UTC-7, Oren wrote:
On Sat, 12 Apr 2014 21:32:38 -0700 (PDT), Harry K wrote:

Odd. almost every report about this situation states that a federal court ISSUED A WARRENT to remove the cattle.

Harry,

An injunction was issued against the man 19 years ago, after BLM
changed rules. He should have been ARRESTED then for non-compliance.
BLM has enough time to arrest the cows, put 'em in leg irons and take
mug shots, too. Sheesh.

And the fact remains that the WARRANT TO REMOVE THE CATTLE was issued just recently.


He was ordered to remove the animals in the first court order. Then
after the EPA declared the area a tortoise sanctuary the feds got all
hot and bothered.

As of this morning, PST, the feds tucked tail. He will get his cattle
back that was stolen from him without a warrant. In violation of the
Bill of Rights.

Your claim is false.


We can agree to disagree

It does not give BLM the right to infringe on First Amendment rights
of people, close public roads, send in hundreds of armed goons or
intimidate people with dogs.

It gives them the right to secure the premises in the interest of public safety. Did they carry it a bit too far? Possibly.


Possibly? It was an infringement upon some people that were not doing
anything but exercising their right to do so. Maybe the po-po should
have bound and ganged them. It has been done in courts before (Abby
Hoffman).

The man should have been arrested 19 years ago and the cows charged
with trespass.

For sure. At least he shouldn't have been allowed to thumb his nose at the courts for all those years. I saw somewhere that he has appealed his case and the feds may have been holding off due to it. Fore sure they shouldn't have for 19 years.

Well if one listens to Eric Holder, people have Civil and Human right
to violate the law. He picks which laws he feels like enforcing,
depending on what day it is or how the wind blows.

Heck, we have undocumented grazers eating off taxpayer money!

Which is what almost everyone in all these threads across the 'net have been saying.


(G) I was talking about illegal aliens (undocumented grazers)

A postal worker stealing $100,000, student loans in defaults,
government employees owing a billion or more in taxes, and the State
Dept. not able to account for 6 Billion in taxpayer money.

But the cows can't eat. No. No way that can happen.

Sure they can if the rules are followed. I also saw somewhere where he had waaayyy more cattle pairs on the land than his original lease authorized.


And some cows on the land where not his, supported by inspectors
checking brands on the animals. Apparently some did not even have a
brand on them

The cost of this all by the government is more that what he owes.
Maybe if Al Charlatan would pay his back taxes it would cover the
cost.