BTW - not to sound like the newsgroup police but "OT" on these would be
nice. When you look at other groups the woodworkers are pretty good about
keeping the group tidy. Too much unlabeled off topic and we will start
looking lit rec.outdoors-rv-travel.

Or worse, the bizarre wackos that leak over onto rec.crafts.metalworking
from the political wacko groups.

Tom