J T wrote:
Sun, Jul 18, 2004, 9:35am lid (J.*Clarke) says:
snip Now let's see, you're talking about an outdoor sign that was not
made on exterior plywood? I'm sorry, but why would someone use anything
but exterior plywood for an outdoor sign?
I didn't ask.
I would advise first finding the local watermen in your area (the people
who _work_ on the water) and finding out what they use. snip
Exterior plywood, butyl caulking, roofing nails.
What kind of _boat_ they use.
Take a look through a text on Naval Architecture if you don't believe
me. snip
Done.
see what's popular among the working watermen of your area and that's
probably the way to go. snip
Exterior plywood, butyl caulk, roofing nails. I don't think so.
Again, what kind of boat, not what kind of materials. Watermen don't
generally build boats, they buy them from boatbuilders.
From your description below whatever you pick will probably have a
transom plug, snip
No. Checked after use, any water removed, sponged dry. Transom
plug - something more to remember, and potential leak.
For a trailer boat ply, snip
Which is what was planned all along.
Just get a Zodiac. snip
Ugly, expensive, not what I want.
When you say "lakes" define "lakes"--the Great Lakes can kill oceangoing
ships and are deep enough for submarines to go do test depth. snip
If I meant Great Lakes, I'd have said. A lake, say up to 5 miles
long, maybe 1/2 to 1 miles wide.
Not going to kick up too bad then unless a vortex off a hill hits a
resonance of the lake, then the whole thing can slosh.
Ditto "river" snip
I no rapids, or river in a flood stage.
Sounds like you're looking for a basic skiff, snip
No.
How good do you want it to look and how much effort do you want to put
into it? snip
My definition of look good is not yours, I can tell that. Let's
just say straight lines, or curved curves, and neatly painted. And, no
lapstrake planking, or anything like that.
Traditional dory construction might be a good option--snip
Why not? Straight lines, neatly painted.
Not.
If you've never spent much time on the water and you're setting out to
design one with no training, then you've got _that_ right. Not quite as
risky as setting out to design an airplane with no training, but close.
snip
Yes, I've been on water. No, I've not had training designing.
But, it ain't rocket science either.
Define "metacentric height". Yes, it's possible to make a usable boat from
a hollow log with no calculation whatsoever. I was under the impression
that you wanted something a little nicer than that.
Wooden Boat, Mystic Seaport Museum, and John Gardner, among others, have
books of study plans-- snip
I'm well aware of those, own study plan books, plus a collection of
WoodenBoat magazine. I'm familiar with Glen-L, Clark, Devlin,
Stevenson, and other boat plan sellers, and have material from some. I
also own books on boatbuilding by Philip C. Bolger, Harold "Dynamite
"Payson, John Gardner, Howard Chappelle, a number of other authors I
can't recall just now, one or two books from the Naval Institute Press,
and at least one book on oceangoing ship design. Most of those books
have been owned by me for up to 20+ years, and I think the latest one
I've had for at least two years. And, they've all been read, more than
once. I've done my homwork, I don't know why you would think I hadn't.
Because you're behaving as if you hadn't.
I think I can be trusted to build a smll boat for fishing that
won't sink, or fly apart in the middle of a lake. So, I'm done.
There's more to it than "won't sink or fly apart in the middle of a lake".
If it's motion is so rapid that you're permanently sea-sick or if it's so
unstable that all you can do is get it to go around in circles or if it
decides to pitch you overboard every time you sneeze that's not good
either.
JOAT
We've got a lot of experience of not having any experience.
- Nanny Ogg
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