replying to , Let's get it right! wrote:
trader4 wrote:

It's quite obvious that the NEC doesn't agree with your fire and
shock hazard argument. If this were a real problem of any significance,
then the NEC would simply not allow 15 amp receptacles on a 20 amp
circuit. Everyone knows that 95% of people are going to plug any
appliance with a matching plug into a 15 amp receptacle. Very few
are going to go find the panel and figure out whether it has a 15
or 20 amp breaker. And they wouldn't look because not one appliance
manual I've ever bought has said that it had to be used only on a
15 amp circuit. So, why wouldn't the average person just plug it
in? And the NEC, UL, electrical inspectors all know this is going
on in hundreds of millions of homes. Obviously they don't agree that it's
a

code violation, illegal, dangerous or why wouldn't they do something
about it?
So, if this were indeed a real problem, the
NEC would simply ban putting 15 amp receptacles on a 20 amp circuit.
The fact that they allow it, the fact that electrical inspectors pass these
installs every day, says you'be full of baloney.
Why don't you show us some appliance manuals that say the appliance
can only be used on a circuit with a 15 amp rating? Or some fire,
shocks attributed specifically to this. With millions of appliances
and millions of 15 amp outlets on 20 amp circuits that should be
easy to do......

Here's an 18 gauge extension cord. It's rated at 10 amps. You
could overload that on a 15 amp circuit.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?seq...FSEV7AodH2cAvA
Here's another one sold at HD, rated at 13 amps. You could overload
that on a 15 amp circuit.

http://www.homedepot.com/p/GE-9-ft-2...i_src=17588969
Acknowledge?
Yes, after all you only have EE's and electricians telling your you're
wrong. We haven't heard from gfre who is/was an electrical inspector,
but I bet he won't agree with you.
And again, if this is indeed a serious safety issue, why the hell does
the NEC allow putting 15 amp receptacles on 20 amp circuits at all?
Everyone knows that people plug all kinds of things into them and almost
no one is going to go look at the breaker. Not that they would even
know to look, because
I'm still waiting for some appliance manuals that say that the appliance
may only be plugged into and used on a 15 amp circuit.
Your logic is extensively flawed, and you've not
Many have, it's just that you ignore it all.


They would both be protected with a 15-ampere circuit breaker. The
listing you quote is the steady state current ratings of the device.
There is a reserve ... and at that reserve current (15-amperes), the
reliability of the conductors deteriorates ... but not to the point it
would ignite cheesecloth (Ref: U.L. Standards for listed extension cords
and power cords".

You acknowledge a 15-ampere circuit breaker provides more protection than
a 20-ampere circuit breaker?

The GFRE with the City of New Orleans certainly does't agree with me ...
and after I proved him wrong. What an arrogant SOB ... and he lacking
BACKBONE!

Have a great X-mas season!


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