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On 08/11/2013 18:10, Adrian wrote:
On Fri, 08 Nov 2013 16:17:21 +0000, John Rumm wrote:

The hard-of-thinking/Daily-Wail-gullible usually conflate the totally
separate European Convention on Human Rights, forgetting that the UK
was instrumental in creating that in the 1950s, and that the
much-loathed Human Rights Act merely allows breaches of the ECHR to be
prosecuted in British courts rather than having to be escalated to the
European Court of Human Rights. Strangely, none of them can ever point
to which articles of the convention they object to, either.


Interesting interpretation.


Where "interesting" = "accurate".


Makes you wonder why the opening text of the 1998 act is "An Act to give
further effect to rights and freedoms guaranteed under the European
Convention on Human Rights". If we go with your interpretation it would
have been a fairly pointless and much shorter document.

However I suspect that most objections to the "Human Rights Act" are in
fact to the UK act of 1998


Umm, yes, isn't that what you're replying to?


You seemed to be talking about ECHR created in the 50's

and act which makes it illegal


It already was, since 1953.


Its funny, but I don't recall the "right to a family life" and other
nebulous concepts being cited in legal cases prior to 1998... why is that?

Could it be that its the 1998 legislation that introduces the facility
for a local court to declare that national legislation is "incompatible"
with ECHR, and thus open to many further layers of appeal, which may
ultimately result in the will of our parliament being disregarded, and
more to the point add many years of legal argument and extra cost to a
case...

Its a very nice gravy train for those in the legal profession I am sure.


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Cheers,

John.

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