On 03/11/13 09:49, John Williamson wrote:
harryagain wrote:
"Tim Streater" wrote in message
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
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"Tim Streater" wrote in message
People coming to do crop picking live in accommodation on site
provided
by the farmer for the purpose (which stands empty the rest of the
year), and therefore has no impact on general housing. These folk,
AFAIK, come from Eastern Europe but it'd make no difference whether
they come Inverness or Kerry.

The problem is these people coming here, taking jobs and sending
the money back home.
And making use of all our services.
Many work on the QT, cash in hand and pay no tax.
As I could have said before, the farmer in question has had poor
experience of getting unemployed locals to do the work. The picking
season is not that long anyway; once they've finished they push off
and
come back next year. And the question of tax is gonna depend on the
integrity of the farmer.
Drivel
Thanks for the warning.

The picking season moves round the country and from South to North.
So?

Many do other agricultural work too.
Only an idiot townie thinks stuff grows on it's own.
Only an idiot thinks that the picking people would be doing work on an
apple farm outside the picking season. That is mostly spraying and
working with the agriculturalist who comes to check for infestations on
a regular basis, and the bee people.


Do you not comprehend "other agricultural work"?
Other things grow besides apples you (don't) know.
Many require year round attention.

But to nowhere near the same extent as they do at harvest time. Fruit
trees need looking after,but one worker can look after a much larger
orchard than he can harvest.

so far a reasonably accurate picture..


Grain,again needs the occasional walk
through and spray if required except at harvest time, when it all needs
to be reaped within a few days. The peak labour needs for arable crops
are for ploughing, planting and harvest, and nowadays that's all
normally done by contractors who work as many hours as possible during
those periods and loaf around or do non-agricultural work for the rest
of the year.

that is not.

average grain crop needs ploughing or subsoil work first, then drilling,
then spraying with at last 4-5 sprays a year plus fertilizer, plus there
is a huge amount of work servicing machinery and getting it ready for
all the other jobs a modern farmer has to do, like hedge maintenance,
headland controls, filling in a small bible of regulatory paperwork,
monitoring spot and forward grain prices, running the driers and stores,
signing futures contracts, looking for buyers, shipping stored grain

The only types of farming which have a fairly constant
labour requirement are dairy farming and growing animals for meat.
Another one I just remembered is tomato growing, and such farms often
have a permanent floating population of immigrant workers living in
caravans on site, as the locals won't (can't afford to) work for the
wages the farmer can afford to pay, as the supermarkets pass on the
British retail customers' dislike of paying a reasonabe price for anything.

People often knock the Archers, but the agricultural stories are well
researched and, even now, accurately portrayed.

Total ********.


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