On 31/10/13 16:35, Adrian wrote:
On Thu, 31 Oct 2013 15:56:05 +0000, bert wrote:

I still think the Scots should not get a vote unless we get one on if
we want them to go.

Well they are an independent country in a voluntary union

Who? Scotland? They haven't been an "independent country" since 1707.

If you don't regard them as an independent country now then you must
accept they won't be any more independent if they leave the UK and join
the EU.

Clearly the concept of a nation state (aka "independent country") is a
bit difficult for you, so I'll explain it in small words.

The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland is a nation
state. Being a member of the EU, NATO, the UN or any other body does not
affect that.


Er wrong. Under the EU framework the UK ceased to be a nation state and
is merely a set of 'regions' within Europe.




Scotland is - currently - a region of a nation state.
No, it's a region of Europe.

If the referendum says "Yes", then they will start down the road to being
a nation state, which can then join NATO, the UN, the EU or whatever
other body without affecting that statehood.

Not unless they leave the EU...


--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.