On 10/23/2013 03:02 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Nate Nagel writes:
On 10/23/2013 01:10 PM, wrote:
On Wednesday, October 23, 2013 12:33:23 PM UTC-4, micky wrote:
On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 08:51:59 -0400, Nate Nagel

wrote:

On Wed, 23 Oct 2013 04:24:57 -0400, morty wrote:



On 10/22/2013 11:31 PM, wrote:

When I was a kid, my grandparents had those old push button light

switches all around their house. I used to drive my grandparents crazy

pushing them on and off, because my parents house did not have them, and

I thought they were really cool.



http://www.amazon.com/Classic-Accent.../dp/B0002EVT5Y



Toggle switches are easier to turn on and off, even while walking out

of the room. One can turn the light off even when one has left the

room, if his arm is still in it. I think that's the reason they

faded from popularity. That's the reason they were not popular with

me. But i can stil see using some now because they are cool.





I would probably feel more comfortable were the yoke of the switch

grounded since you'll obviously be using antique metal covers. Granted

we all managed to survive without that for ages, but still.



When he uses metal wall plates, he can wrap the ground wire around

where the wall plate screw will go, and sandwich it between the plate

and the yoke. He can put the screw through the plate and wrap the

wire tightely enough around it to stay there until the plate is

screwed down. Or if not enough thickness available, he can cut out

a thin sheet metal yoke, like a big wide Y, and clip or solder the

ground wire to that.



And you're saying that meets code? That was the question.




Exactly. I'd probably solder a 14AWG pigtail to the back of the yoke,
myself. That would satisfy *me* but nothing will make them meet current
code I doubt.


If the handy-box is steel, then the screws holding the brass cover plate will
be a sufficent ground. (if the handy-box itself is, as the NEC requires,
grounded independent of the device).

That's not the way code treats it... look at a "spec grade" device, it
generally is self-grounding as well, there's a brass colored clip on one
end of the yoke making a more positive connection with the screw holding
the yoke to the box. Cheaper devices won't have that but will still
definitely have a ground screw. The older devices don't have that nor
do they have a ground screw connected to the yoke. The only ground path
is provided by the yoke to box screws which isn't currently considered
sufficient. (in practice, it probably is... I'm just being pedantic here.)

nate



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