On 10/10/13 21:14, Martin Brown wrote:
On 10/10/2013 19:55, dennis@home wrote:
On 10/10/2013 17:20, Fredxx wrote:


Do you really believe that? At least they understand conduction,
convection and radiation, and can apply those simple laws of physic to
their models.

How do yu know?
they haven't published their models or what data they have selected.

Several of the models are publicly available for anyone who is
interested to play with. They do require a fair amount of knowledge to
set up and run but the code is out there if you want to look at it.

Nature even ran an ensemble DIY climate project using screensaver time
on home PCs in much the same way as SETI does. If you want to take part
take a look at:

http://www.climateprediction.net/projects/

The preliminary results of the original project are almost a decade ago

http://www.nature.com/nature/journal...ture03301.html
(abstract only article behind expensive paywall)

Unless you are one of the "scientists" you don't know what they have
done.

Any decent scientific training will do to understand the basics.

If you want to dig deeper into the computational physics simulations of
planetary atmospheres you will need a PhD in something highly numerate.


er no, all you have to do is be a raliway engineer, or a third rate
natural scientist from a 4th rate university.

Or a politicain or a green activist.



This can't be helped - the physics of climate *is* complicated.



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