On Friday, October 4, 2013 7:15:58 PM UTC-4, westom wrote:
On Friday, October 4, 2013 3:10:29 PM UTC-4, Ashton Crusher wrote:

Which, as I've said many times now, and which you conveniently ignore,

is that I've never claimed LIGHTNEING strikes will be protected

against by 6 feet of wire. That's just a strawman that you keep

bringing up so you can ignore what I have said.



He never reads to understand. He often reads to misrepresent and attack. Or to avoid discovering what he did not know.



Once a surge is earthed, then every foot of wire after that earthed protector INCREASES protection. Telcos want their equipment up to 50 meters separated from protectors. Because that separation increases protection AFTER a surge is connected to earth.


According to you, once a surge is earthed by that one surge protector
at the panel, there is no more surge. End of story.
So, why now is there a need for additional wire between that surge
protector and eqpt? In a desperate attempt to recruit a friend here,
you're now shooting holes in your own sunken boat.




Even demonstrated in Category A, B, and C diagrams. Protectors closest to the service entrance must be most robust since a shorter wire means less impedance. However if a surge is not earthed at the service entrance, then protectors even most distant from an earthed 'whole house' protector no longer have additional protection afforded by longer wire.



What? You've been telling us for years now that the only protection
possible is with a direct earth ground. And that is ALL that is required.
There was no further protection possible. Now suddenly you're talking about
"protectors more distant"? Good grief, you're confused.

And if you want to support you're new buddy Ashton, help him find a
credible reference that says 6 ft of house wiring is effective as
surge protection and that it's a good form of surge protection. Is
that in the IEEE guide? Or even anywhere, including maybe a kook
website?




Once a surge is earthed, then longer wire means better protection. If not properly earthed, then wire length no longer increases protection.


BS. Wire has capacitance, resistance and inductance. Yes, that
will have an effect on an waveform (surge) that goes through it.
But it has an effect on the surge and it doesn't know the source
of the surge. It will tend to diminish any surge. It doesn't know
if the surge going through it is one that has already been partially
earthed somewhere else or not. And 6 ft of
wire is going to reduce a surge by such a tiny amount that it
isn't going to protect anything. All the various electronic gear
that is damaged everyday that is at the end of 50 or 100 ft of
AC wire, TV coax, etc proves that.