On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 22:43:21 -0600, xrongor wrote:

well the page i saw says "saw stop saws now available". that seemed pretty
damn clear. but i also see if you go one page deeper it says 'pre order'.
so it looks like they are indeed lying.

Classic definition of vaporware right there. Kind of like Doom 3, but
there's a release date for that now, maybe-ish.