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"Ignoramus32089" wrote in
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On 2013-09-13, Jim Wilkins wrote:

1) That I am wrong and that displaced people will continue
finding
employment.

2) A violent resolution of this, resulting in mass damage and
realignment

3) A non-violent resolution, with the majority of people living
on
handouts, studying liberal arts or doing make-work stuff.

Number 3 is what I personally anticipate, but I recognize the
uncertainty that is inherent in these predictions. In any case,
everyone needs to make predictions in order to plan our actions.

#3 is the bulk of the Democrat's Platform, isn't it? That is
what
our
fine nation is turning into.


DO you see any other alternatives, other than 1, 2 or 3?


The Khmer Rouge solution was to force the unproductive urbanites
out
onto collective farms, to make the nation self-sufficient.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khmer_Rouge


That would be #2 on my list. Could it happen? Yes. Will it happen?


They set out to implement their notion of 'pure' communism Violent
repression was the consequence when it clashed with human nature.

Lenin himself recognized the flaws of pure communism once he had faced
the realities of ruling a nation (Marx never had) and replaced it with
the New Economic Policy that reinstated private enterprise to a
limited degree:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Economic_Policy
"The NEP represented a move away from full nationalization of certain
parts of industries."

[NEP policy] "increased the peasants' incentive to produce, and in
response production jumped by 40% after the drought and famine of
1921-22."

Did they allow or suppress that history when you were in school? We
learned quite a lot about the social engineering experiments of the
past, one of which was still active and near enough to visit:
http://www.shakers.org/

Other countries' schoolbooks may present history very differently from
ours. I have an old German one in which Rome never fell, but passed on
to its legitimate Germanic heirs (who as Praetorians had been a power
there for centuries) and a Soviet one that dismisses the protracted
meat grinder leading to the Allied victory in Normandy as 'no major
battles'.

Less likely in a civilized society.


Less likely in a society that can effectively resist oppression.