On Sunday, August 25, 2013 2:40:36 AM UTC-4, harry wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message

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On Sat, 24 Aug 2013 07:48:58 +0100, "harryagain"

wrote:



The islamonuts got backin their own way (11-9)



This **** ain't over yet!



And beat the USA in both Iraq and Afghanistan.



You mean while the Brit's sat around having tea and crumpets?



They haven't finished yet.



So more of them will die in the future. I'm not mad about it.



The US airforce is obsolete.



Can the Yoo Kay fly from Missouri to the Middle East or South Korea

round trip and issue a headache? You limey louts ran out of cruise

missiles in Libya, tucked tail and sailed home like the two time we

spanked your asses.



It was for use against the Russians.



Fool.



We flew from the UK to the Falkland islands, the longest war time bombing

mission ever.



Where did you stop for tea and to refuel? The operative part of
the above is "from the UK". By that, you're including the Ascencion
Islands because you sure couldn't have done it from bases in England.
Even then, you were about as prepared as you were for Hitler. You
don't have to believe me, you can ask the RAF:

http://www.raf.mod.uk/history/OperationBlackBuck.cfm



For the RAF, the first consideration was a relatively simple one, range. The RAF's large aircraft of the time were intended for use in Europe and over NATO waters, air-to-air refuelling capability for these types was previously considered unecessary.

Doh! Time to stop for tea!


Suddenly, Hercules, Nimrod, Victor and Vulcan aircraft were expected to fly 3,900 miles, loiter on mission, then return the same distance. Marshalls of Cambridge and the RAF engineers among others worked themselves to a standstill fitting probes and tank systems to a variety of types, testing the new fittings almost as the paint dried. The practical result of all this frenetic activity was that just before midnight on 30 April, two crews from 101 Squadron climbed into two 22 year-old bombers to set out on what was then the longest bombing mission ever attempted.

On the first mission, sitting in the bomb bay of each of the two Vulcans were 21 1,000 lb (454 Kg) bombs, over nine tons of high explosive, which, combined with the full fuel load, meant that both aircraft were over 2½ tons over their maximum weights. Because Ascension Island is relatively hot, the overloaded aircraft would have to run their four 20,000lb thrust Bristol Siddeley Olympus 301 engines at 103% power to get off the ground. The scene in the dark of the softly lit cockpits, the runway lights stretching away between the volcano and hills of Ascension, the banshee howl of the Vulcan and the slow acceleration of the lights is far better imagined than described.

The impressive line up of Victor tankers at Ascension island Only one Vulcan would make fly each of the seven planned missions, codenamed 'Operation Black Buck', the second aircraft was intended as an airborne spare in case of any failure in the prime bomber. To fly this distance, and to return, each mission required the support of twelve Handley Page Victor K2 tankers of 55 and 57 Squadrons on the outbound leg, and a further two Victors and a Nimrod on the return leg.



Wow, after all that, using 16 aircraft, you managed to actually deliver one payload of 21,000 pounds of bombs. But you're
apparently right, it did set a record at the time. One that has
since been broken by the USA with nonstop roundtrip flights of B2 bombers from Missouri to Iraq and more recently to Libya. At 5500 and 6700 miles one way from the heart of the USA, not some
forward base, those bombing runs far exceeded your
3300 mile journey to the Falklands from the Ascencion Islands base. And each B2 carried twice
the payload of your single Vulcan. So, nice record for the time,
but it's been long surpassed.