"dennis@home" wrote in message
eb.com...
On 21/07/2013 06:29, harryagain wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message
...
In article ,
harryagain wrote:
The reason electricity is cheap is because few new power stations have
been built. The capital cost of the old ones is long written off.

When/if serious new construction gets under way, someone will have to
pay. YOU.

At least that's a start. You seem to have admitted there's more to the
costs of producing electricity than the cost of the energy used to make
it.


You are almost the dopiest here.
There are two costs.
Cost of converting the fuel. (Any fuel)
Costs of the fuel (free in the case of renewables)
Renewables will utimately be the cheapest in total because the energy
cost
is free and the price of fossil fuel will rise.

And then there is the (strong) possibilty our fuel supply will be cut
off/curtailed.
(Except for renewables.)

And nukes.
They will only be cut off because of people like you.

Hence the desperation over frack gas and renewables. (The renewables
won't
run out either the frack gas will be expended in a decade).



the renewables will go.
Just look how much gas is needed to make the bases for wind turbines.
Look a how much oil is need to make the blades.

You can't run major industrial processes on renewables as you can't stop a
steel furnace or a cement factory when it goes dark or if the wind stops
blowing.

You probably can't run bakeries and other food factories on them either.

In short unless you plan on killing 90% of the population you just can't
do renewables with any of the current technologies.

If what you say about fuel is true the *only* option is nukes.
Den. there is nochance
Look at the pie chart.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primary_energy