Steve Firth wrote:
Phil L wrote:

Steve Firth wrote:
For ****s sake, why not just admit that you are wrong?

As well as chlorate there is simazine which is a pre-emergent
herbicide.

"the product enters weeds mainly through their roots"


http://www.ospray.com.au/msds/index....view=article&i
d=105:simazine-500&catid=34:herbicides&Itemid=53

And where in the uk sells either?

You said, "No weedkiller will kill the roots without going through the
leaves and down the stems" You were utterly incorrect to say that.
Simazine is one weedkiller that will kill without "going through the
leaves and down the stems".

We live in the UK, it's right there in the group name

So now you're proving that you're the sortof idiot who can't be
bothered to admit when he is wrong and who wants to bull**** and
bluster, rather than to admit that he was wrong.


For trees, we're talking about trees, read the op: 'trees/shrubs/ivy' and
don't start throwing insults around


OK, limiting my options to weedkiller that are available right now in
the UK:

1. Glyphosate does not need to be absorbed through leaves. It can be
applied to stumps and roots and will kill trees stumps and roots. So
even the weedkiller that you probably had in mind does not work as you
imagine. You can buy "Tree Stump Killer" which is glyphosate from
Bayer, in the UK.

2. Flufenacet is a pre-emergent soil herbicide. It is not absorbed via
leaves. It is sold in the UK by several suppliers including Bayer.


kills grass and broad leaved weeds, as do:

3. Metosulam is an emergent soil herbicide, it is absorbed via roots.
It is sold in the UK by Bayer.

4. Pendimethalin, rapidly absorbed by primary roots acts by stopping
their development, doesn't "creep" in soil, probably ideal for the
OP's application. Sold as "Stomp" by BASF in the UK.

You also stated:

"Don't waste your money on any wonder liquid that promises instant
root destruction, no easy 'solution' exists"

You lied. There are a number of herbicides intended to clear roots
from land, these include Bayer Path Weedkiller, Bayer Long Lasting
Ground Clear, Bayer Tree Stump Killer, BASF Stomp. All licenced for
use in the UK.

What's your next wriggle going to be?

Clear roots from land? - so if I water a 30ft conifer with it, it'll be dead
next week?


*Instant* root destruction.

The OP isn't going on holiday to Australia to buy weedkiller, nor is he
likely to spend hundreds on weedkiller that won't work, he's already stated
that he's going to rip out the roots, treat the ground and re-lay, unless
you can point me to a weedkiller, available in the uk, that can be watered
on *tree* roots and kill the *tree*, don't bother replying.