On 05/06/2013 00:32, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 04/06/13 23:28, Nightjar wrote:
On 04/06/2013 18:14, harry wrote:
On Jun 4, 9:46 am, The Other Mike
wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 09:30:55 +0100, Farmer Giles
wrote:
"VIENNA - A reactor meltdown could occur within one hour if a
commercial
passenger jet hits a nuclear power plant, according to a new
Greenpeace

More lies spread by the greens to force their ****ty agenda down the
craws of
mankind. Greenpeace, FoE and FIT parasites are by far the biggest
threat to
life on earth, far bigger than any terrorist threat.

I'd zap them all in an electric chair powered by nuclear power, the
sooner the
better as with useless wind turbines polluting our country we might
run out of
surplus for this essential task.

--

So you resort to abuse when shown evidence you don't like?

Remember Greenpeace's 'evidence' that Brent Spar contained 5,500
tonnes of oil?

However, the quote Farmer Giles gave was not an accurate assessment of
what the report said. Yes it said that there could be a worse release
of radiation than at Chernobyl.

very hard to see how.

Short of somehow detonating a 50 tonne bomb under the pressure vessel.

Chernobyl was a BIG reactor with no secondary containment, fully melted
down and on fire It doesn't get worse than that.


Yes it said that a nuclear plant might be attacked by ramming it with
an airliner. However, the two events were not linked. The massive
release of radiation was in the scenario where the plant was under
military attack and was subjected to a sustained artillery barrage
that destroyed not only the containment vessel, but also caused
widespread damage to the safety, control and backup systems.

well yes, but frankly if its under that sort of attack, why not go the
whole hog and nuke the bloody thing. Or better, build an extremely dirty
bomb and detonate it at 5 miles up.

Greenpeace postulated that a terrorist group might, somehow, get hold of
a 15.5 cm artillery piece, camouflage it, sneak into range of the
reactor, then bombard it without interference. You can see why one of
their founders says they have lost the plot.

Where they go into the realms of Brent Spar is with the assertion that
this would result in a China Syndrome core meltdown, which did not
happen at either Three Mile Island or Fukushima. Of course, the report
was written in 2005, so they had no actual knowledge of what would
happen when a nuclear power plant lost all its backup systems.

China syndrome is simply not possible. Its a scare story fiction. Its a
bugger to get a reactor critical at all. The moment the fuel rods melt,
its even harder. However, thats why you have secondary containment. If
it does the crap drops into the collecting pot and smoulders there for a
few tens of years. like 3MI. In a few more tens of years 3MI will be a
useful source of fuel. There's no hurry. Its not going anywhere.

There hasn't been any fuel in TMI-2 reactor for over 20 years. All that
is left now is some radioactive concrete, which will be decommissioned
with the other reactor when the site closes next year.

Colin Bignell