On Jun 2, 7:27*pm, Free Lunch wrote:
On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 16:14:34 -0700, (Jason) wrote in
alt.atheism:





In article , Tom McDonald
wrote:

On 6/2/2013 5:35 PM, Jason wrote:
In article , Free Lunch
wrote:

Good. And why do you want to punish the poor and take their benefits
away when it was a co-worker of yours who did this?

I don't want the food stamp program or welfare program to be ended..
Instead, I want the fraud problems in those programs to come to an end.
The only way to do it is to have more fraud investigators.

I don't agree with the posters that don't want more fraud investigators to
be hired and trained.

Yet, you want to pay for your massive increase in combatting fraud by
cutting benefits for the poor. You don't give a damn about the poor..

Think about this issue:

The fraud harms the children of poor parents. When the poor parents sell
food stamps to buy illegal drugs, it means the children of those poor
parents go without food.

If there were more fraud investigations, it means far more children will
be able to have food to eat.

Don't you agree that would be good thing?

Wouldn't it be better to find out at what rate that scenario is actually
happening at first? Why assume there is a greater rate of this sort of
fraud than we already know about?

What if adding more fraud investigators cuts into benefits for needy
children, and more children wind up without food than do currently?

Don't you agree that would be a bad thing?

How would we know without having more fraud investigators?

My guess? it's a major problem.

That is your guess even though the Department of Agriculture continually
investigates levels of fraud and finds that it it currently around 1% of
benefits.

You mean just like Eric Holder investigates himself and his dept
and continually finds that everything is A OK?




Why should we listen to your ignorant guess when there is
actual evidence?

Probably because like so many of us, he's actually seen plenty
of fat people loading up carts with food at the supermarket,
getting into cars that are only a few years old. He's seen the
total failure of the "War on poverty". Despite all the trillions
spent on welfare, food stamps, over 50 years, the poverty rate
is still about what it was in 1965. But we do have whole
generations of families living off it and all the fatherless homes
that come with it, because that's how you can qualify.
And as to who is ignorant, you just proposed that we accept an audit
of a
program by the very agency that runs it. Good grief you're dumb!