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On Sat, 01 Jun 2013 14:31:46 -0700, (Jason) wrote in
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On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 09:23:06 -0500, "Attila Iskander"
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 19:22:25 -0700, (Jason) wrote in
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 16:57:42 -0700, (Jason) wrote in
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On Fri, 31 May 2013 13:55:49 -0700, (Jason) wrote in
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On 5/27/2013 8:49 PM, Jeanne Douglas wrote:
In article ,
Free Lunch wrote:

On Mon, 27 May 2013 11:33:19 -0400, Kurt Ullman

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Remaining President when you know you are no longer capable
of
performing the duties is the worst kind of treason because
it's
endangers the country more than almost anything anyone could
do.

Show me where that is grounds for treason. You lefties
really are
dumb****s.

When there is a lefty getting all up in arms about RR and
his
alleged
Alzheimers, I ask them if that is true, aren't they sorta
ashamed
by the
fact that this demented old man handed their assess to them on
numerous
occassions?
Tends to shut them up at least temporarily.

We're being nice to him. If he did not have Alzheimers, he was
just
being a very bad man. The fact that he could get enough
hate-filled
Americans to support him in his war on the poor (particularly
if they
were of color) shows us how much racism, sexism and bigotry
still
remains in this country.

Of course, today, the GOP would never consider Reagan because
he was far
too liberal for their taste. They worship a fake St. Ronnie who
looks
little like the man who was actually president.

The War on Hunger had been won by the time Reagan became
President. He
dismantled the apparatus that had worked and now we have 50
million
Americans who are food insecure, almost all of the children, the
elderly, and hard-working adults.

For that alone, Reagan deserves to be cursed every single day.

Perhaps the program suffered the malaise of many government
giveaway
programs which is becoming a huge corrupted and wasteful
organization.
Food Stamps became the secondary legal tender for the underground
and
criminal economy. The EBT card is being used in the same way. I've
seen
the credit on the cards being sold for 50 cents on the dollar by
someone
who wanted to buy booze or dope. Food Stamps now the EBT card is a
major
part of the illegal drug trade. I've seen people trade their
EBT credit for cash to buy cigarets, pot and alcohol instead of
food
for "their children". So the P.L.L.C.F. blame the behavior of the
parents on Republican presidents. Gee, that makes a lot of sense.
^_^

TDD

Thanks for the best post that I have seen today. I know the story of
a
local mother of three kids. She trades her food stamps for marijuana
and
cocaine.

And that is a crime, but it is not an excuse to take food stamps away
from those who are not violating the law. Clearly those who want to
take
food stamps away from everyone are people who hate what Jesus taught,
who mock what Jesus taught.

I agree that it's not an escuse to end the food stamp program. However,
it
is evidence that officials need to do a better job of enforcing the
food
stamp rules.

How much are you willing to spend in enforcement to avoid $1,000 in
fraud?

About 5 to 10 percent of the money spent on the food stamp program.

So you want to spend billions in enforcement to avoid a thousand in
waste. How foolish of you.

Another false argument
You have waste in the MILLIONS, if not billions

I asked Jason how much he would be willing to spend to avoid $1,000 in
fraud.

Take it up with Jason, he's the one who wants to spend huge amounts.

USDA says fraud is about 1% of SNAP. Do you have a cost-effective way to
cut it further? They want to hear about it.

I seem to recall that I stated that 5% to 10% of the entire food stamp
program should be set aside to investigate cases of fraud and abuse.

Even though, at the moment, fraud only costs 1% of the entire program.
Will you take the money from those in need or get Republicans to vote to
increase the size of the program, a program they are trying to cut at
the moment?

It appears that at least some posters want to do nothing to combat fraud
and abuse.

No, it does not.

If nothing is done, it means millions of children will suffer
from hunger due to their parent or parents making use of their food stamp
cards to purchase illegal drugs; gambling in casinos and visiting strip
clubs.

You have no idea what you are talking about, again.

Why not go back to the older system where food stamp coupons were used to
buy food and only for real food and not for whiskey. That system worked
very well for dozens of years.

The current system is more secure than the old one.

The food stamp cards that work like credit cards make fraud and abuse far
easier.

No, it does not work like a credit card. You are misinformed.