"Free Lunch" wrote in message
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On Sat, 1 Jun 2013 07:06:48 -0700 (PDT), "
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On Jun 1, 9:54 am, Tom McDonald wrote:
On 5/31/2013 11:35 PM, Jason wrote:
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The alternative is to do nothing about the fraud and abuse. Is that
what
you want to happen?

Do you have the same zeal for ferreting out fraud and abuse when it
comes to big corporations that get billions from the taxpayers? Or is it
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Again, for the most part, corporations are not getting billions from
the taxpayers.

Of course they are. How ignorant are you of government spending?

It's that you libs like a tax system where you have
a high theoretical rate, so you can make it look like you're socking
it to those evil companies. Then you also pass all kinds of exemptions
and loopholes that reduce their rate, so instead of paying 35%, they
actually wind up paying 20%. Kind of like when you do your own
taxes. You do know how to fill out an IRS form, don't you? We
conservatives would cut that 35% rate, one of the highest in the world,
to something like 20% and get rid of all the loopholes, nonsense, etc.
But you libs will have none of it because you like to keep waging
classwarfare and pretending that corporations are evil.

This has nothing to do with the absurdly low taxes that corporations pay
because the 35% rate is a joke that is paid by few companies if any.
This is about the huge amount of money spent by the government.

Now there is some direct handout to corporations, but the best
example of that would be the recent experience of the govt and
Solyndra and all the other failed miracle energy companies.

Don't you wish that George W Bush hadn't set up that program? Goodness,
look how much of a failure Tesla is, oh, nevermind.


I think it's time to set up a rule that whenever George W Bush is brouhgt up
by some moron, the thread is dead



Now, let's talk about overpriced goodies that the Defense Department
buys, or the billions in subsidies that huge corporate farms get, or the
billions spent making the "Beltway Bandits" rich in their consulting
gigs.


As your fellow (idiot) traveller likes to post,
Redirection noted, redirection rejected


And yes, with regard to any govt handouts or tax breaks, I'm all
for rooting out the fraud. Of course, the less of these we have
to begin with, the less fraud to worry about. If there was no
govt handouts to the likes of Solyndra, there would be no fraud.

Let's start by making it a crime for professional sports teams to demand
handouts.

No problem there.
Let's do that for ALL business ventures.