In article , wrote:
On 8 Jun 2004 19:07:51 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

As long as gun nuts like you stay out of mine you can depend on it.
People in your world shoot 50,000 other Americans a year.
I guess they ran out of paper targets.

Cite, please? (Translation: I think you pulled that number out of your
ass, and would like to see you back it up with a legitimate source).

Actually the number is WAY low.
Far more than 50,000 people are SHOT every year in the US.

Citation, please?

Every fourteen minutes someone DIES from a gun shot wound in the US.

Let's have some facts here, shall we, instead of just repeating bull****
that you read somewhere?

Source for the following is the 2003 World Almanac and Book of Facts (World
Almanac Books, New York), pages 76- 80.

In 1999 [latest year this almanac provides statistics for], there were 28,874
total deaths involving firearms in the United States. Of these, the majority
were suicide (16,599). Approximately three out of eight were homicides
(10,828). Another 824 were accidents, and in 324 cases "the intention involved
(whether accident, suicide, or homicide) could not be determined."

One year contains 525,600 minutes. Therefore, the rate of firearm deaths from
all causes in the US in 1999 was one every eighteen minutes -- and a firearm
*homicide* occurred, on average, once every 49 minutes.

For comparison purposes, in the same year, 42,401 people died in motor vehicle
accidents, and more people died of falls (13,162) and poisoning (12,186) than
died of firearm homicides -- and one-point-five *million* people die of
cancer, heart disease, and stroke every year.

For those who are unduly concerned about firearm _accidents_, please note that
more people drowned (3,529), choked (3,885), suffocated (1,618) or died in
fires (3,348), than died in firearm accidents (824, as noted above).

Conversation is over.

Translation: you don't have any facts to back up your claims.

Gun owners in the US are the single largest identifiable group in the world who
suffer from a serious mental illness but go largely untreated.

Wrong again. That group is called "liberals". One symptom of their illness is
the delusion that laws, in and of themselves, actually have any effect on the
behavior of the criminal class, a group which _by_definition_ does not obey
laws. This most frequently manifests itself as the delusional belief that
legislation restricting the use or possession of firearms can in any way
reduce the crime rate, despite massive evidence to the contrary.

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

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