On Mon, 20 May 2013 11:51:30 +0000, Doug Miller wrote:

bottom line, these things need to be re-thought. preferably by someone
with a car.

and a brain.

What they really need are consumer use-model specifications.

They have mandated that the gas stays in the can. That's half the spec.

Now they need to mandate that a consumer can get the gas *out* of the can!