On Mon, 13 May 2013 18:32:58 -0400, krw wrote:

I don't mind the ventless cans.
It's the damned valve that ****es me off.

+1

It's worse than useless!

This is what I do with the valve when I need to fill or pour some gas:

http://www5.picturepush.com/photo/a/...g/12960448.jpg